Thread: DSD on Android phones

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Post by bmoura June 1, 2014 (21 of 29)
Fitzcaraldo215 said:

Yes, I agree. Nothing would be more breathtaking than hi Rez over a junky low Rez device. The market for it would be huge.

Well, anything with a USB port (Windows PC, Tablet, Laptop) can use one of the low cost DSD + PCM DACs like the LH Labs Geek Out ($199) which offers up to double rate DSD (DSD128) or the iFi iDSD Nano ($189) which offers up to quad rate DSD (DSD256).

That's pretty high resolution. And the way I play Stereo DSD music on the road!
No need to transcode DSD to PCM with these products.

Post by The Seventh Taylor June 2, 2014 (22 of 29)
Just another thought to dismiss the notion that mobile phones are low-quality low-resolution devices:

After Apple itself, now also Bentley Motors has recorded a commercial video with an iPhone 5S (and edited it on an iPad using iMovie), with beautiful results.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/15/bentleys-short-documentary-shot-on-iphone-5s-edited-on-ipad-air

Not the sort of brand that would use junk, is it?

Post by The Seventh Taylor September 28, 2014 (23 of 29)
Another step in the right direction:

Sony Xperia Z3 is the first smartphone to support DSD audio playback.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/mobile-phone/3572165/sony-xperia-z3-vs-xperia-z2-comparison-review/

Post by AmonRa October 12, 2014 (24 of 29)
DSD from a smartphone must be totally unusable. Decent DSD capable SACD players weigh at least 61 pounds. When you deduct the weight of the spinner, few ounces, passable DSD A/D conversion parts alone weigh over 60 pounds...

Post by rammiepie October 12, 2014 (25 of 29)
AmonRa said:

DSD from a smartphone must be totally unusable. Decent DSD capable SACD players weigh at least 61 pounds. When you deduct the weight of the spinner, few ounces, passable DSD A/D conversion parts alone weigh over 60 pounds...

Time to put that transport on a diet!

Post by Claude October 13, 2014 (26 of 29)
This is nice from an audiophile perspective, although I would probably never use DSD playback capability if I owned this smartphone.

The manufacturers are desperately trying to add new features in order to make people replace their "old" (bought a year ago) phones, but these features become less and less relevant.

I'm on the market to replace my 2 year old entry level smartphone with a newer compact one, and while comparing the Sony Xperia Z3 compact and the previous model Z1 compact (released 9 months earlier, and now 30% cheaper than the new one), I noticed that the main difference is that the new one is waterproof. In terms of performance, they are very similar. I'm buying the Z1 compact

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Sony-Xperia-Z1-Compact,Sony-Xperia-Z3-Compact/phones/8283,8744

Post by Astral October 13, 2014 (27 of 29)
AmonRa said:

DSD from a smartphone must be totally unusable. Decent DSD capable SACD players weigh at least 61 pounds. When you deduct the weight of the spinner, few ounces, passable DSD A/D conversion parts alone weigh over 60 pounds...

You don't need a transport on a smartphone, dude. A smartphone is not a SACD player.

Post by AmonRa October 13, 2014 (28 of 29)
Astral said:

You don't need a transport on a smartphone, dude. A smartphone is not a SACD player.

That is why I already deducted the weight of the transport mechanism (few ounces) from the weight of the SACD player (61 pounds). That leaves over 60 pounds for the DSD DAC and the box… If a half decent DSD DAC apparently weighs over 60 pounds with proper shielding and power supply, how can a 1/4 ounce DSD DAC in a smartphone even begin to compete?

Somebody is being foolish.

Post by onenairb October 13, 2014 (29 of 29)
The Seventh Taylor said:

No reason to be so negative. The numbers race in smartphones means that specs have been cranked up ridiculously fast, such that the current generation shoots 50 megapixel still images and 4K (3840×2160) video, and sports displays with higher resolution than HDTV: WQHD (2560×1440). Consequently, some expect mobile to play a serious role in the delivery of UltraHD video to the home.

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/tv/your-4k-smartphone-wants-to-kill-your-camera-and-your-blu-ray-player-1228936

For the OPPO fans amongst you: The company has joined the fray with an affordable Android smartphone with specs like above, the Find 7.

http://en.oppo.com/products/find7/

http://www.stuff.tv/oppo/oppo-find-7a/review

I have the Find 7. It supports FLAC up to 24/192 but not DSD.

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