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Euell Neverno said:
I've watched his attacks on others. Exton is marketed in the US and in Europe. The notes for the Pittsburgh Mahler contain both Japanese and English. The English is not an insert. This indicates to me that Exton is definitely interested in expanding in international markets and their disks Re sold I the U.S. and Europe if not worldwide. Thus, I have serious doubts about FD's assumptions concerning limitations of the Japanese market. Since the Japanese are heavy into techno stuff, I'd be very surprised if at least TV surround sound has not made headway there. You and FD are probably right about high end being restricted to the well-to-do, but that is somewhat the case everywhere. Listen up, FD !
It is my understanding that the owner of Exton has not been convinced that multi-channel is or can be satisfying. My Exton MCH discs are rather mediocre to unsatisfactory and I am a big multi-channel adherent. This also explains Exton's tendency to record the same repertory over and over with different artists. Its what the owner likes.
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Windsurfer said:
It is my understanding that the owner of Exton has not been convinced that multi-channel is or can be satisfying. My Exton MCH discs are rather mediocre to unsatisfactory and I am a big multi-channel adherent. This also explains Exton's tendency to record the same repertory over and over with different artists. Its what the owner likes.
Very interesting. So, stereo is the owners' preference. Now that makes sense as to the reasoning for producing stereo-only disks to be sold internationally. Listen up, FD !
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Post by stvnharr August 3, 2012 (33 of 57)
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Hm, I clicked on this thread about LSO Live expecting more about LSO Live from the last time I clicked on this thread. But instead I find 2-3 pages of interchange about Exton between FD, who is very knowledgable about all things Japanese, and Euell, who apparently has never been to Japan, lived there or anything, but seems to know everything nonetheless.
All well and good, but could you take the exchange elsewhere, like to a thread about Exton or something.
Why have subject headings for threads if people are just going to write about anything they want anywhere they please?
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Post by wehecht August 3, 2012 (34 of 57)
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Since I'm a dedicated multichannel guy I don't own the Exton recordings from Pittsburgh, but I seem to recall reading that they are engineered by Sound Mirror, who repeatedly have provided us with some of the most realistic sounding recordings ever. If its true that Sound Mirror did the engineering and we know that they're capable of engineering stunning mc recordings the decision to go stereo only must reflect the values of the company and its home market, which, based on my personal experience, is pretty much exactly as FD described it.
BTW, I do own a number of Exton's earlier multichannel discs which I'd descibe as generally of middling sound quality, probably 3 stars, which, to get back on topic (finally), is just about the same mark that I'd give to my small collection of LSO Live discs, including the Beethoven 9 that has been the recent subject of diametrically opposed reviews.
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Post by tailspn August 3, 2012 (35 of 57)
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wehecht said:
Since I'm a dedicated multichannel guy I don't own the Exton recordings from Pittsburgh, but I seem to recall reading that they are engineered by Sound Mirror....
Exton recordings are engineered by Exton. But it's very expensive to ship a recording kit, with redundant critical hardware half way around the world, so it's usually rented. That also includes technical support for that hardware, which may include operation during the session. That's very different than the responsibility of a tonemeister.
But maybe some good technique rubs off? :)
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tailspn said:
But maybe some good technique rubs off? :)
Whatever. Those Exton recordings have been gaining well deserved kudos for the sound. The multichannel recordings in Australia of Sibelius are sonically distinguished as well. The Pittsburgh recordings generally are as good as it gets. On topic: the LSO recordings are OK, but you don't go ooh ahh over the sound.
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Post by wehecht August 3, 2012 (37 of 57)
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tailspn said:
Exton recordings are engineered by Exton. But it's very expensive to ship a recording kit, with redundant critical hardware half way around the world, so it's usually rented. That also includes technical support for that hardware, which may include operation during the session. That's very different than the responsibility of a tonemeister.
But maybe some good technique rubs off? :)
Thanks for the clarification, Tom.
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Again, look at the website. That will tell you everything about where their heart lies:
http://www.octavia.co.jp/
Not a word in English, and no English page. If they were so concerned with the world market, they would put their site and twitter pages in English. They do not.
Oh, well, what do they say, don't cast your pearls before swine.
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flyingdutchman said:
Again, look at the website. That will tell you everything about where their heart lies:
http://www.octavia.co.jp/
Not a word in English, and no English page. If they were so concerned with the world market, they would put their site and twitter pages in English. They do not.
Oh, well, what do they say, don't cast your pearls before swine.
Sort of makes you feel like a BMOC, doesn't it, Snoop?
Or a Japanese American Prince!
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flyingdutchman said:
Again, look at the website. That will tell you everything about where their heart lies:
http://www.octavia.co.jp/
Not a word in English, and no English page. If they were so concerned with the world market, they would put their site and twitter pages in English. They do not.
Oh, well, what do they say, don't cast your pearls before swine.
The point is Exton recordings are being marketed internationally and, contrary to certain assumptions here, the Exton sound on their HQ stereo recordings is exemplary, I have a couple of their last multichannel recordings made in Australia that are also very good, at least as far as the stereo tracks are concerned. And, of course, there are many more multichannel Exton titles still available than the stereo-only HQ series, although apparently there is some dissatisfaction with the sound of a number of those.
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