Thread: EMI Music Japan will release 45 Hybrid SACDs from September to November 2012

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Post by SACD Hunter July 14, 2012 (1 of 80)
EMI Music Japan (formerly Toshiba/EMI) will release 45 Hybrid SACDs of classical recordings from September to November 2012. The titles are as follows:

September 26, 2012 (15 titles)

TOGE15001 Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 1 & 8 (PO / Klemperer, 1960)

TOGE15002 Beethoven: Symphony No. 2 / Die Geschoepfe des Prometheus Overture / Leonore Overture No. 2 (PO / Klemperer, 1960)

TOGE15003 Beethoven: Symphony No. 3 / Fidelio Overtures (PO / Klemperer, 1960)

TOGE15004 Beethoven: Symphony No. 4 / Egmont (PO / Klemperer, 1960)

TOGE15005 Beethoven: Symphony No. 5 / Colioran Overtures (PO / Klemperer, 1960)

TOGE15006 Beethoven: Symphony No. 6 / Leonore Overture No. 1 (PO / Klemperer, 1960)

TOGE15007 Beethoven: Symphony No. 7 / Die Weihe Des Hauses Overture (PO / Klemperer, 1960)

TOGE15008 (2 Discs) Beethoven: Symphony No. 9 / Overtures (PO / Klemperer, 1960)

TOGE15010 Faure: Requiem (De Los Angeles / Fischer-Dieskau / Paris Conservatory O / Cluytens, 1962)

TOGE15011 (2 Discs) Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 (BPO / Karajan, 1957)

TOGE15013 Bruckner: Symphony No. 9 (VPO / Schuricht, 1961)

TOGE15014 Mahler: Symphony No. 9 (BPO / Barbirolli, 1964)

TOGE15015 Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique (Paris O / Munch, 1967)

TOGE15016 Elgar: Cello Concerto / Sea Pictures (Du Pre / Baker / LSO / Barbirolli, 1965)

TOGE15017 Beethoven: Violin Concerto (Oistrakh / French National Radio O / Cluytens, 1958)

October 24, 2012 (15 titles)

TOGE15018 (2 Discs) Mahler: Ruckert Lieder / Symphony No. 5 (Baker / NPO / Barbirolli, 1969)

TOGE15020 (2 Discs) Mahler: Symphony No. 6 / R. Strauss: Metamorphosen (NPO / Barbirolli, 1967)

TOGE15022 Brahms: Symphony No. 1 (VPO / Barbirolli, 1967)

TOGE15023 Brahms: Symphony No. 2 / Tragic Overture (VPO / Barbirolli, 1966)

TOGE15024 Brahms: Symphony No. 3 / Variations on a Theme by Haydn (VPO / Barbirolli, 1967)

TOGE15025 Brahms: Symphony No. 4 / Academic Festival Overture (VPO / Barbirolli, 1967, 1966)

TOGE15026 Dvorak: Symphony No. 7 (LPO / Giulini, 1976)

TOGE15027 Brahms: Symphony No. 1 (Paris O / Munch, 1968)

TOGE15028 Bruckner: Symphony No. 3 (VPO / Schuricht, 1965)

TOGE15029 Schubert: Symphony No. 9 “The Great” (Cleveland O / Szell, 1970)

TOGE15030 Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4 (BPO / Karajan, 1971)

TOGE15031 Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 5 (BPO / Karajan, 1971)

TOGE15032 Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 6 “Pathetique” (BPO / Karajan, 1971)

TOGE15033 Dvorak: Symphony No. 8 / Slavonic Dances Nos. 10 & 3 (Cleveland Orchestra / Szell, 1970)

TOGE15034 Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 (VPO / Schuricht, 1963)

November 28, 2012 (15 titles)

TOGE15035 Holst: The Planets (LSO / Previn, 1973)

TOGE15036 (2 Discs) Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 8 & 9 "Choral" (LSO / Giulini, 1972)

TOGE15038 Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 1 (Arrau / PO / Giulini, 1960)

TOGE15039 Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2 (Arrau / PO / Giulini, 1962)

TOGE15040 Ravel: Piano Concerto in G / Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto No. 4 (Michelangeli / PO / Gracis, 1957)

TOGE15041 Wagner: Orchestral Music Vol. 1 - Lohengrin Act I: Prelude / Tannhaeuser Overture / Der fliegende Hoellander Overture / Rienzi Overture (PO / Klemperer, 1960-1961)

TOGE15042 Wagner: Orchestral Music Vol. 2 - Die Goetterdaemmerung Act III: Siegfrieds Trauermusik / Tristan und Isolde Prelude and Liebestod / Die Meistersinger von Nuernberg Act I: Prelude & Act III: Aufzug der Meistersinger and Tanz der Lehrbuben / Lohengrin Act III: Prelude (PO / Klemperer, 1960-1961)

TOGE15043 Wagner: Orchestral Music Vol. 3 - Das Rheingold: Einzug der Goetter in Walhall / Die Walkuere Act III: Walkuerenritt / Siegfried Act II: Waldweben / Die Goetterdaemmerung: Siegfrieds Rheinfahrt / Tannhaeuser Act III: Prelude / Parsifal Prelude (PO / Klemperer, 1960-1961)

TOGE15044 Mahler: Symphony No. 2 "Resurrection" (PO / Klemperer, 1961)

TOGE15045 Mahler: Symphony No. 4 (Schwarzkopf / PO / Klemperer, 1961)

TOGE15046 Mendelssohn: Symphony No. 3 “Scottish” / Hebrides Overture (PO / Klemperer, 1960)

TOGE15047 Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde (Ludwig / Wunderlich / PO / NPO / Klemperer, 1964, 1966)

TOGE15048 Beethoven: Missa Solemnis (NPO / Klemperer, 1965)

TOGE15049 Brahms: Ein Deutsches Requiem (Schwarzkopf / Fischer-Dieskau / PO / Klemperer, 1961)

TOGE15050 Dvorak: Symphony No. 9 “From the New World” / Smetana: The Moldau (BPO / Karajan, 1977)

The price of 1 disc title is JPY3980 (ca. USD50), 2 disc title is JPY5480 (ca. USD69).
Post by Claude July 14, 2012 (2 of 80)
Thanks for the list. The news was already discussed here:

/showthread/89100//y?page=first
Post by canonical July 14, 2012 (3 of 80)
Does this mean they are re-doing them properly this time, as direct pure DSD transfers, instead of the messy method they used to use? Cool.
Post by Claude July 14, 2012 (4 of 80)
They are redoing the transfers with the Grimm converter after learning from this forum that PCM is inferior.

In 2013, after another wave of complaints on sa-cd.net, they will redo the quad titles in multichannel.
Post by RWetmore July 14, 2012 (5 of 80)
Claude said:

They are redoing the transfers with the Grimm converter after learning from this forum that PCM is inferior.

In 2013, after another wave of complaints on sa-cd.net, they will redo the quad titles in multichannel.
We wish.
Post by Chris July 14, 2012 (6 of 80)
SACD Hunter said,

TOGE15001 Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 1 & 8 (PO / Klemperer)

TOGE15002 Beethoven: Symphony No. 2 / Overtures (PO / Klemperer)

TOGE15003 Beethoven: Symphony No. 3 / Fidelio Overtures (PO / Klemperer)

TOGE15004 Beethoven: Symphony No. 4 / Egmont (PO / Klemperer)

TOGE15005 Beethoven: Symphony No. 5 / Colioran Overtures (PO / Klemperer)

TOGE15006 Beethoven: Symphony No. 6 / Leonore Overture No. 1 (PO / Klemperer)

TOGE15007 Beethoven: Symphony No. 7 / Die Weihe Des Hauses Overture (PO / Klemperer)

TOGE15008 (2 Discs) Beethoven: Symphony No. 9 / Overtures (PO / Klemperer)
While there are undoubtedly some truly great performances and recordings among this batch too. For those who don't feel like paying 50 dollars per disc, or like me lucky bastard,don't already have most of these already on LPs,FYI some of them are ALREADY available as hi res downloads from HD Tracks at slightly lower price 15-18 dollars each, instead of these Japanese bargains. They are the same recordings,the only difference being that the analogue to digital transfer only involves one step analogue to 24/96 pcm.
And the few recordings that were done in 4 channel surround will most probably, only be released in stereo anyway on SA-CD.
Both Karajan's Tchaikovsky symfonies and the Dvorak/Moldau disc where "SQ" releases on LPs.
For those who need an antidote against the dessicated, freeze dried,no vibrato ,thin soup,undernourished HIP Beethoven of today,other than as here "old Klemperer" there is also a brand new set from Barenboim Beethoven for All. All Nine for 35 Dollars or 29 € in native 24/96 hi res and very good ,silky warm airy DECCA hi res SQ.
Barenboim is at times almost as slow and heavy, as Klemperer but also with that wonderful sense of steady PULSE and "lyrical Flow" and weight in the bass,so often completely missed by the stacatto/ almost everything forte sforzato irrespective of how Beethoven marked it,style HIP CAMP.
I am sure many HIPsters will get their coffe down the wrong throat both from Klemperer and Barenboim,but to me both in their own different ways,deliver an interesting approach on Beethoven's timeless masterpieces.
Post by Ubertrout July 14, 2012 (7 of 80)
So they're licensing the Szell performances from Sony?
Post by canonical July 14, 2012 (8 of 80)
Chris said:

They [the downloads] are the same recordings,the only difference being that the analogue to digital transfer only involves one step analogue to 24/96 pcm.
That is certainly incorrect. Because, as has been well-documented here, and confirmed by EMI themselves, they used some ridiculously convoluted process that involved about 3 A / D / A conversions before they even got to think about placing it on an SACD or anywhere else. Something to do with them re-editing it, re-mastering it, adding CEDAR noise removal which is done back in the analog stage???, then lacquer removal, soap, toothpaste and ash clean, followed by lots of spit and some de-greaser, and then finally back to 24/96 PCM ... which is the download file you refer to. At the end, I believe there is still some music left from the original.

In brief, buy a $3 CD and get more of the original. That was my experience where I had both CD and SACD. You are just wasting your money on the download (or the SACD version, in my view).
Post by Chris July 14, 2012 (9 of 80)
canonical said:



In brief, buy a $3 CD and get more of the original.
And even more so on LP than any CD IMO.
I will save my comments on how the new transfers compare to the LPs until I have actually heard some myself.But one thing is sure I am not going to dish out 50 dollars for a disc when the same can be had for much less as a download.
Post by canonical July 14, 2012 (10 of 80)
Paid downloads are apparently already on the way out ... market apparently shifting to streaming. Spotify / Rdio etc ... $10 per month ... 15 million titles ... all you can eat. Can't be too long until they offer hi-rez streaming.

Not for me though ... I like those sexy superjewel boxes.
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