Post by seth July 14, 2012 (11 of 80)
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Ubertrout said:
So they're licensing the Szell performances from Sony?
Szell/Cleveland made a handful of recordings for EMI in 1968 to 1970:
Dvorak 8 + a 2 Slavonic dances
Schubert 9
Brahms Double (Oistrakh/Rostropovich)
Brahms Violin (Oistrakh)
Beethoven Piano Concertos (Gilels)
The above listing says the Schubert 9 includes music from "Rosamunde." He recorded that with Cleveland (CBS) as well as the Concertgebouw (Philips). Seems strange that in this one instance they'd liscense a recording just to help fill out the SACD. I bet it's a missprint (I googled the catalogue number and none of the listings at various Japanese online stores say that it includes "Rosamunde" excerpts).
Either way, the earlier Epic/Sony version from 1957 is superior and on SACD (and you can find it new and used for less the price than this Japanese release).
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I knew about the EMI recordings, especially the Brahms concertos, that Szell made (they're on the Signature series, and I knew the double before that also). But the Schubert 9 + Rosamunde is exactly the program of a OOP Sony SACD...seemed too similar.
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Post by feinstei July 14, 2012 (13 of 80)
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It sure would be fun if they did the 1954 Furtwangler Die Walkure. Their SACD remaster of the RAI Ring was revelatory and a VAST improvement over any previous release (including the 1972 Seraphim LP original release -- sorry, I've never heard the HMV original release).
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seth said:
Szell/Cleveland made a handful of recordings for EMI in 1968 to 1970:
Dvorak 8 + a 2 Slavonic dances
Schubert 9
Brahms Double (Oistrakh/Rostropovich)
Brahms Violin (Oistrakh)
Beethoven Piano Concertos (Gilels)
The above listing says the Schubert 9 includes music from "Rosamunde." He recorded that with Cleveland (CBS) as well as the Concertgebouw (Philips). Seems strange that in this one instance they'd liscense a recording just to help fill out the SACD. I bet it's a missprint (I googled the catalogue number and none of the listings at various Japanese online stores say that it includes "Rosamunde" excerpts).
Either way, the earlier Epic/Sony version from 1957 is superior and on SACD (and you can find it new and used for less the price than this Japanese release).
The earlier source from Japan was not accurate. I have revised the listing. TOGE15029 Schubert: Symphony No. 9 “The Great” (Cleveland O / Szell) was recorded in the Severance Hall, Cleveland on April 27 and 28, 1970 by EMI.
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feinstei said:
It sure would be fun if they did the 1954 Furtwangler Die Walkure.
This one? They already did -- TOGE11032.
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How many versions of the same piece do classical fans need?
Give us some pop and rock.
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Post by DSD July 14, 2012 (17 of 80)
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FunkyMonkey said:
How many versions of the same piece do classical fans need?
Give us some pop and rock.
1+
Until the basic rock and jazz repertoire are on SACD, why keep duplicating the same classical works over and over again? How many complete sets of Beethoven and Mahler Symphonies do we need on SACD?
EMI has tons of great rock, however their SACDs should be pressed in Europe where the prices can be affordable instead of in Japan. Wouldn't it make more sense to press at Sony DADC in Austria or Sonopress GmbH in Germany instead? Even for the Japanese market, it's cheaper to press in Europe.
At amazon.co.jp
EMI's Japanese-pressed single SACDs are ¥2,658-¥2,999 and 2-SACD sets are ¥3,300 /titles/0/553/date/5/1
EMI's European-pressed 2-SACD sets are ¥1,343 /titles/0/106/date/5/1
Why is EMI, Warner Bros. and Universal choosing to press SACDs in the most expensive place in the world? I believe we deserve answers!
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Post by zeus July 14, 2012 (18 of 80)
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canonical said:
Paid downloads are apparently already on the way out ... market apparently shifting to streaming. Spotify / Rdio etc ... $10 per month ... 15 million titles ... all you can eat. Can't be too long until they offer hi-rez streaming.
Not for me though ... I like those sexy superjewel boxes.
I recently subscribed to Rdio. It's a great way to sample before you buy.
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zeus said:
I recently subscribed to Rdio. It's a great way to sample before you buy.
And I still buy when I can. Spotify, MOG, etc. are great to get an idea of what you're getting, but so far not close to SACD quality.
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Post by seth July 15, 2012 (20 of 80)
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canonical said:
Paid downloads are apparently already on the way out ... market apparently shifting to streaming. Spotify / Rdio etc ... $10 per month ... 15 million titles ... all you can eat. Can't be too long until they offer hi-rez streaming.
Not for me though ... I like those sexy superjewel boxes.
Streaming is very different, most obviously because it only works when you have a connection to the internet.
In fact, I'd argue that streaming has a tough road ahead now that the era of unlimited data is coming to an end, both for mobile devices and internet service providers. As an example, Netflix in Canada has been throttling the video quality because so many of their customers have been hitting their data caps.
Businesses are also getting more aggressive at blocking their employees from streaming -- NPR reported the other day that up to 25% of a company's bandwidth expenses are attributed to employees who stream video and music!
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