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DSD said:
Rammipie I'll give you a hand here, I mentioned audiophile recording companies before to AmonRa, I guess he forgot. Telarc uses MIT and Monster Cable pro microphone cables and even internally wired their recording consoles with Monster Cable. http://www.stereophile.com/content/jack-renner-telarc-direct-cleveland
In addition nearly every single audiophile recording company uses audiophile-grade equipment for recordings including upgraded cables for everything (recording and playback), as they want NO weak links to limit their recordings. I believe this is one of the many reasons audiophile recordings sound better than "commercial" major label recordings.
The only logic I can deduce from non~believers in better cable upgrades is that they simply NEVER heard them in their respective systems and base their logic on hearsay or price............
The cheaper is better mentality which has always been a mainstay in audio is for sissies!
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rammiepie said:
The only logic I can deduce from non~believers in better cable upgrades is that they simply NEVER heard them in their respective systems and base their logic on hearsay or price............
Keep using that word "logic" Rammie. You may get around to understanding what it and the various fallacies mean.
Because we never heard cables in our systems must mean we are only listening to what others are saying or because they are just too expensive. Ever though we may have heard them in other people's systems as well doesn't matter, right? Of course, according to your logic, if it is expensive, then it must be great.
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Post by AmonRa June 28, 2012 (13 of 140)
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DSD: Telarc is dead, while BIS it the biggest producer of new SACDs.
"Audiophile labels" are audiophile labels because they want to please "audiophiles". So they claim to use esoteric equipment and various voodoo methods in their recordings. Which does not guarantee that recordings are actually any good, they are a minuscule minority in sales, as suckers are in reality a minority, even if not here...
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Cables: I think it is better to use microphones with build in A/D converters as they come from Neumann amongst other. That makes the whole cable discussion obsolete.
DSD direct cut: sounds like nonsense and thus pure marketing. Only seem to make sense if your front-end process is bad to begin with.
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flyingdutchman said:
Keep using that word "logic" Rammie. You may get around to understanding what it and the various fallacies mean.
Because we never heard cables in our systems must mean we are only listening to what others are saying or because they are just too expensive. Ever though we may have heard them in other people's systems as well doesn't matter, right? Of course, according to your logic, if it is expensive, then it must be great.
I can positively guarantee you, FD, that Dolby Digital 5.1 from my Fios Receiver sounds better than most people's SACD system and that just didn't happen by chance.
Spending thousands on OOP music escapes my logic....once saw David Bowie's OOP SACD "Heathen" going for over 1200 pounds at Amazon UK and a Quad Reel going for $1K on e~bay!
Now, that's silly (except for completists).
Why you are SO obsessed with how Rammie spends HIS money (and the operative word is HIS) escapes logic, altogether.
Don't you have better things to do with your time? Really?
Mr. Spock, you're NOT! Especially when my investor keeps chiding me that I live WAY below my means!
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rammiepie said:
Why you are SO obsessed with how Rammie spends HIS money (and the operative word is HIS) escapes logic, altogether.
Don't you have better things to do with your time? Really?
Mr. Spock, you're NOT! Especially when my investor keeps chiding me that I live WAY below my means!
Sorry, but you're the one who tried to make this all about you when you came into the argument about OOP SACDs. Really, are you that egotistical?
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flyingdutchman said:
Sorry, but you're the one who tried to make this all about you when you came into the argument about OOP SACDs. Really, are you that egotistical?
Sigh!
I just joined in an ongoing discussion about the ineffiacy of allocating funds to OOP SACDs (et alia)......
Also going so far as to show how I purchased 10 Exton SACDs for a little over $100 from CDJapan rather than "splurging" $178 on a single direct cut Exton Sampler which, BTW, this particular thread is all about.
I attempted to stay on topic while you strayed far off.
So why don't you spend $178 on the Exton Sampler.......play it once and then within the year offer in on e~bay for $500?
That's your speed.......not mine.
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rammiepie said:
So why don't you spend $178 on the Exton Sampler.......play it once and then within the year offer in on e~bay for $500?
That's your speed.......not mine.
I don't buy samplers. As for what I sell and for how much, it should matter to who buys it at the price I sell it for, not you. I put it on ebay, the bidders are the ones who determine the price.
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Post by DSD June 28, 2012 (19 of 140)
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AmonRa said:
...Telarc is dead...
Telarc isn't dead but no new SACDs in several years as their owner Concord Music Group has ended the SACD programs for all two dozen labels they own.
Telarc projects are still DSD recorded in Stereo and Multichannel so I expect them to be released in some DSD format in the future. Perhaps Concord knows something we don't?
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Post by DSD June 28, 2012 (20 of 140)
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What I have learned so far in this thread:
This HQ Exton Sampler is "Direct-Cut" which according to Exton's website is pressed directly from the master eliminating several steps in the pressing process. I will never know if there is any audible difference, as the price is way beyond reason for me. I don't understand why "Direct-Cut" SACDs cost 7 times as much as Exton's HQ SACDs. However it may make a sonic difference to a rich person, perhaps one of them will comment.
EXTON 10th Anniversary Box (Limited Edition) is 10 SA-CDs + 1 CD and is ¥7,980. That's 11 discs for almost half the price of this "Direct-Cut" single-SACD sampler.
AmonRa prefers non-audiophile recordings because they match his mindset and I prefer audiophile recordings as they are the most realistic sounding in my system. I prefer audiophile LPs, audiophile downloads and audiophile SACDs. And unlike AmonRa I don't care about sales figures I care what sounds the most realistic and pleasing in my system.
Flyingingdutchman we know you don't see value in upgrading your cabling, however many of us appreciate the sonic difference. If one hasn't tried a upgrade, tweak or modification then it's rude to comment on it.
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