Post by Links June 19, 2012 (1 of 18)
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excerpt from Positive Feedback ISSUE 60:
"What's more, it is a reality. Now.
There are very significant new developments in DSD-ville. As Andreas Koch reported in our last issue (Issue59/dsd2.htm), a collection of audio industry companies and labels have committed themselves to an Open Standard for DSD-over-USB.
This will come to include stereo (mono included) and multi-channel DSD files.
The basic framework of the stereo specification is done; the multi-channel is under construction."
more here:
http://positive-feedback.com/Issue60/dsd.htm
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Post by Claude June 19, 2012 (2 of 18)
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Another example of amateur enthusiasts being ahead of the professionals. My guess is that 99% of all DSD downloads available on the internet are illegal PS3 SACD rips.
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Post by Links June 19, 2012 (3 of 18)
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That may be true. But Channel Classics offers files for those who wish to be honest and pay.
"Jared Sacks' Channel Classics site sets the interface standard here, and I want to draw your attention to that site in particular.
Channel Classics has developed a very polished and mature online sale and download site, with downloads available in various formats: DSD, PCM out to 192/24 (FLAC), and MP3.
The transaction system works very smoothly, the real-time .ZIP archive assembler does its job efficiently, the Java-based download manager is pretty intuitive (it even handles the file unzipping at the far end), and the downloads show good throughput generally.
I recommend the Channel Classics site as a model for DSD e-commerce… other labels should be checking this out very carefully."
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Post by Claude June 20, 2012 (4 of 18)
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Links said:
But Channel Classics offers files for those who wish to be honest and pay.
... pay almost twice the price of the SACD
http://www.channelclassics.com/dsd/sinfonietta-31511.html
So currently the download makes sense only if you have no SACD player and just need a few DSD recordings. But they will have to adapt the pricing at some point, otherwise it will not be successful for that reason alone.
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Post by tailspn June 20, 2012 (5 of 18)
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Claude said:
So currently the download makes sense only if you have no SACD player and just need a few DSD recordings.
Yes, and/or are involved with the emerging interest of high end music servers and computer audio, and want the edit master of a piece that was originally authored to the SACD.
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tailspn said:
Yes, and/or are involved with the emerging interest of high end music servers
AFAIK music servers supporting DSD are yet to emerge on the market :)
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audioholik said:
AFAIK music servers supporting DSD are yet to emerge on the market :)
Not only is DSD not supported, but Mch is not, as well, from all packaged music servers I know of. I honestly do not get this whole category. Many are very slick, easy to use and perform well within their limited media supported. But, their pricing is generally ridiculous given what they can and cannot do, in addition to the potential obsolescence factor in dealing with the fast moving world of downloads. I think many makers of these will simply not survive.
But, perhaps, tailspn was referring not only to those, but also to home computer audio setups via PC or MAC, which I think have much more potential. They require much more of a computer hobbyist mentality for now, so they are not for some who are not sufficiently technical. You would be surprised, though, at how much some non- techno friends of mine in their 60's and 70's have accomplished in this way. Not only are they are hugely less expensive, they are much more adaptable to changing technology via new software and hardware additions to a plain old PC or MAC. They seem to be growing by leaps and bounds, not only for music, but for video, as well.
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Post by tailspn June 20, 2012 (8 of 18)
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It's a chicken and egg situation. Jared, among others, are doing their bit to encourage this new market, while continuing to offer their catalogs to existing markets. Turn-key music servers will soon appear (all be it initially expensive to recoup investments), that will support all the high-end formats including DSD, and multi-channel. Look for Channel Classics to offer select multi-channel DSD downloads in the near future. The BSO download site has offered multi-channel 88.2KHz FLAC multi-channel downloads for years now.
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Post by Johnbs June 20, 2012 (9 of 18)
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audioholik said:
AFAIK music servers supporting DSD are yet to emerge on the market :)
Hmm, note that the newly announced Pioneer receivers accept DSD file input and PureMusic enables playback of DSD files
John
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Post by tailspn June 20, 2012 (10 of 18)
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Over USB or Firewire? Got a model number?
Thanks.
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