Thread: A Classical SACD Starter Kit

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Post by zeus January 3, 2004 (1 of 20)
I thought I'd put together a list of 10 classical SACDs from my own collection which I find myself coming back to for both performance and sonics. This is a personal choice and next week it could be a different 10 titles. If any classical collector is just starting out with SACD, I feel confident they'll like at least half of the following (in no particular order):

Dvorak: Symphony Nos. 8, 9 - Budapest Festival Orchestra/Fischer
Shostakovich, Prokofiev, Britten: Cello Sonatas - Wispelwey/Lazic
Mozart: Piano Concertos Nos. 20 & 27 - Perahia
Copland: Appalachian Spring, El Salon Mexico etc. - Bernstein
Vaughan Williams: Symphony No. 4, Mass - Hickox
Faure/Debussy/Ravel: Piano Trios - Florestan Trio
Mahler: Symphony No. 2 - Wiener Philharmoniker/Kaplan
Beethoven: String Quartets Op. 18 Nos. 1, 4 & 5 - Prazak Quartet
Mozart: Piano Concertos Nos. 9 & 25 - Brendel
Beethoven: Piano Concertos Nos. 2 & 4 - Kovacevich/Davis

Maybe others would like to create similar lists for other genres. Start a new thread and use [t=nnn] in the body of the text (when nnn is the id of the title in the database) to create the links so people can read what others think.

Stephen

Post by soundboy January 3, 2004 (2 of 20)
Great idea!! I was just ready to explore some classical SACDs. Thanks Stephen for the idea.

Post by zeus January 3, 2004 (3 of 20)
soundboy said:

Great idea!! I was just ready to explore some classical SACDs. Thanks Stephen for the idea.

For someone just starting out in classical, I'd probably have a slightly different list. But at least these are recordings you probably won't regret owning in the future. I've been reading reviews (here and elsewhere) plus feedback on forums etc. and think these are pretty safe choices. If you do decide to try some of these, I'd be interested in your feedback.

Post by Chris January 4, 2004 (4 of 20)
zeus said:

I thought I'd put together a list of 10 classical SACDs from my own collection which I find myself coming back to for both performance and sonics. This is a personal choice and next week it could be a different 10 titles. If any classical collector is just starting out with SACD, I feel confident they'll like at least half of the following (in no particular order):

Dvorak: Symphony Nos. 8, 9 - Budapest Festival Orchestra/Fischer
Shostakovich, Prokofiev, Britten: Cello Sonatas - Wispelwey/Lazic
Mozart: Piano Concertos Nos. 20 & 27 - Perahia
Copland: Appalachian Spring, El Salon Mexico etc. - Bernstein
Vaughan Williams: Symphony No. 4, Mass - Hickox
Faure/Debussy/Ravel: Piano Trios - Florestan Trio
Mahler: Symphony No. 2 - Wiener Philharmoniker/Kaplan
Beethoven: String Quartets Op. 18 Nos. 1, 4 & 5 - Prazak Quartet
Mozart: Piano Concertos Nos. 9 & 25 - Brendel
Beethoven: Piano Concertos Nos. 2 & 4 - Kovacevich/Davis

Maybe others would like to create similar lists for other genres. Start a new thread and use [t=nnn] in the body of the text (when nnn is the id of the title in the database) to create the links so people can read what others think.

Stephen

Thanks for some ideas of what to buy next. I already have one of the recordings you recommmended,the Mahler 2nd.I also have three others from the Vaughan Williams series on Chandos,and really like them too. So I guess it´s time to add the 4th to an already stunning list of VW symphonies on SACD.
My personal recommendations other than those are the Mahler 5th on Pentatone.
Very good recording.
Don´t miss the BIS Takemitsu SACD. It´s also very good, both musically and as a recording. Then there´s of course the Podger Vivaldi set. Stunning indeed.
Chris

Post by Dinko January 4, 2004 (5 of 20)
zeus said:

I thought I'd put together a list of 10 classical SACDs from my own collection which I find myself coming back to for both performance and sonics.

Very good list. But no classical list is complete without Prokofiev: Alexander Nevsky, Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition - Schippers
That's still the ultimate orchestral/choral thrill ride that I know of.

Post by tream January 4, 2004 (6 of 20)
Interesting list. Here's five I recommend, for musical value, performance and sourd:

Mozart - Sinfonia Concertante, etc with Midori, Imai and Eschenbach, Sony Classical

Mozart - Complete Quintets, Fine Arts Quartet with Gandelsman, Lyrinx

Vivaldi, Late Violin Concertos, Carmignola, Sony Classical

Mahler, Symphony 1, MTT, SFS Media

Mahler, Symphony 3, MTT, SFS Media

For another topic:

My short SACD wish list would include:

Berlioz Requiem - looks like Telarc is releasing a performance in the fall of 04, and of course there is the now unavailable Vanguard, but the real wish would be Colin Davis and the LSO. MC of course (hey if you want to hear the music as the composer intended, you have to go MC just for the Requiem!)

A Wagner opera, recorded in DSD and not a retread. How about the Paris version of Tannhauser, perhaps Wagner's most beautiful score, just to be somewhat realistic. (I can dream about the Ring). If you don't believe the comment about Tannhauser being Wagner's most beautiful score, listen to the Sinopoli recording. I grew up on the Solti, but it is a hard pressing approach whereas Sinopoli brings out beauty.

Ditto for Verdi - Otello, Don Carlos, Aida ?

The Abbado Beethoven 9 on SACD rather than DVD-A.

Bloch's Concerto Grosso #1 (had to include something oddball, but this is a great work)

Post by beardawgs January 5, 2004 (7 of 20)
Great idea Stephen, and here are some more recommendations for the people interested in exploring classical music on SACD. These are the SACDs we would recommend to anyone not familiar with the repertoire:

Shifting Landscapes Adams/Sumera - Järvi
Murray Perahia Plays Bach
Bach: Christmas Oratorio - Netherlands Bach Society
Brahms/Stravinsky: Violin Concertos - Hilary Hahn
Bruckner: Symphony No. 9 - Harnoncourt
Mozart: Horn Concertos - Civil/Marriner
Piazzolla: Orchestral Works - Castagna
Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto No. 2 etc. - Haas/Inbal
Saint-Saens: Symphony No. 3, Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition - Edo de Waart
Ravel/Shostakovich - Scottish Ensemble

Now, all of the above are the highlights from our collection – we can highly recommend all of them not just music wise, but also as excellent recordings. There are also two collections we would also recommend: Mahler with MTT and SFSO and Vaughan-Williams on Chandos.

Post by nucaleena January 5, 2004 (8 of 20)
tream said:

Interesting list. Here's five I recommend, for musical value, performance and sourd:

Mozart - Sinfonia Concertante, etc with Midori, Imai and Eschenbach, Sony Classical

Mozart - Complete Quintets, Fine Arts Quartet with Gandelsman, Lyrinx

Vivaldi, Late Violin Concertos, Carmignola, Sony Classical

Mahler, Symphony 1, MTT, SFS Media

Mahler, Symphony 3, MTT, SFS Media

For another topic:

My short SACD wish list would include:

Berlioz Requiem - looks like Telarc is releasing a performance in the fall of 04, and of course there is the now unavailable Vanguard, but the real wish would be Colin Davis and the LSO. MC of course (hey if you want to hear the music as the composer intended, you have to go MC just for the Requiem!)

A Wagner opera, recorded in DSD and not a retread. How about the Paris version of Tannhauser, perhaps Wagner's most beautiful score, just to be somewhat realistic. (I can dream about the Ring). If you don't believe the comment about Tannhauser being Wagner's most beautiful score, listen to the Sinopoli recording. I grew up on the Solti, but it is a hard pressing approach whereas Sinopoli brings out beauty.

Ditto for Verdi - Otello, Don Carlos, Aida ?

The Abbado Beethoven 9 on SACD rather than DVD-A.

Bloch's Concerto Grosso #1 (had to include something oddball, but this is a great work)

dear tream, there is a non-SACD surround performance of the Bloch, a good one too. It's a live performance by Ensemble XXI Moscow, in Ambisonics surround, eleased on the Ensemblegram label (FIENG 95001) and coupled with Martinu's double concerto (another "unknown" little masterpiece).
Like you, i've enjoyed the Midori disc, but still haven't heard a performance that comes close to the Perlmann/Zukerman on DG.
Haven't heard the Carmignola on SACD but it is a terrific redbook.
Beardawgs played me the SFS Mahler discs and I was blown away, - a definite must have, especially the first. You might like to audition the Haenchen Mahler 5 on pentatone, - not bad at all!

Post by nucaleena January 5, 2004 (9 of 20)
zeus said:

I thought I'd put together a list of 10 classical SACDs from my own collection which I find myself coming back to for both performance and sonics. This is a personal choice and next week it could be a different 10 titles. If any classical collector is just starting out with SACD, I feel confident they'll like at least half of the following (in no particular order):

Dvorak: Symphony Nos. 8, 9 - Budapest Festival Orchestra/Fischer
Shostakovich, Prokofiev, Britten: Cello Sonatas - Wispelwey/Lazic
Mozart: Piano Concertos Nos. 20 & 27 - Perahia
Copland: Appalachian Spring, El Salon Mexico etc. - Bernstein
Vaughan Williams: Symphony No. 4, Mass - Hickox
Faure/Debussy/Ravel: Piano Trios - Florestan Trio
Mahler: Symphony No. 2 - Wiener Philharmoniker/Kaplan
Beethoven: String Quartets Op. 18 Nos. 1, 4 & 5 - Prazak Quartet
Mozart: Piano Concertos Nos. 9 & 25 - Brendel
Beethoven: Piano Concertos Nos. 2 & 4 - Kovacevich/Davis

Maybe others would like to create similar lists for other genres. Start a new thread and use [t=nnn] in the body of the text (when nnn is the id of the title in the database) to create the links so people can read what others think.

Stephen

Stephen,
love the list game! I agree totally about the marvellous Fischer Dvorak disc and the RVW 4th and the Florestan trio recording (am going to hear them live this month, - can't wait).
Haven't heard the SACDs of the Kovacevich and the Perahia but love their redbook incarnations. Heard the Brendel redbook when it was first released and was very disappointed, - compared to Kovacevich (coupling the 25th with the best 21 ever) Brendel sounds plodding and unsmiling.
My own top ten Classical SACDs so far would include the

Fischer Dvorak; Florestan trio; and RVW 4th discs you list
plus
Handel Fireworks and Water Music - Boston Baroque on Telarc
Mahler 5th - Haenchen on Pentatone
RVW 2nd "London" - Hickox et al
Adams/Sumera "Shifting Landscapes" - Jarvi
Dowland "Lachrimae" on Linn
"Primus ex Apostolis", - medieval church music, on Fone

and my favourite SACD so far, the
Brahms clarinet quintet and trio with Karl Fageus on Opus3.

However, have got so many yet to play, incl. the Bach Xmas Oratorio, Scarlatti's Griselda, Faure requiem (Chandos), RVW Posioned Kiss and so on, that I'm sure that list will be challenged and changed soon.

Post by bryzmon January 8, 2004 (10 of 20)
Thank you. I am new to SACD and classical, so this list will come in handy.

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