Thread: Surround sound Telarc

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Post by old-dog-newtricks May 23, 2012 (1 of 23)
Please forgive me if there is a thread on this but I couldn't find one.
I received an email advert from Amazon.com which listed a Monteverdi Vespers from Pearlman et al on Telarc. The pictured sleeve clearly shows 'SurroundSound' and the legend 20 bit can also be made out. Was this once a SACD? How can they get surround from a CD and does the 20 bit refer to HDCD or to the original recording?

Post by Claude May 23, 2012 (2 of 23)
This was released on CD in 1997, before SACD existed.

http://www2.concordmusicgroup.com/albums/Monteverdi-Vespers-Of-1610/

Telarc recorded in 20bit back then, but of course the CD is 16bit (and it's not a HDCD).

The "surround" aspect refers to the Dolby Pro Logic encoding of the stereo signal, i.e. the non-discrete surround sound method used in the VHS era, that can be decoded by home theatre receivers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Surround

Dolby Surround encoded CDs were mainly used for movie soundtrack releases, but Telarc used it with other releases as well, although it was never popular among audiophiles.

Post by old-dog-newtricks May 23, 2012 (3 of 23)
Thank you Claude that explains it perfectly.

Post by rammiepie May 23, 2012 (4 of 23)
DTS Entertainment also released a few DTS encoded Telarc releases back in the day....most of which also were SACD releases, as well.

Post by Nagraboy May 23, 2012 (5 of 23)
rammiepie said:

DTS Entertainment also released a few DTS encoded Telarc releases back in the day....most of which also were SACD releases, as well.

Rammie, have you got Michael Nesmith's Dolby Surround-encoded CD - Live at the Britt Festival? The surround sound works really well, surprised me when I heard it. The notes even have Nes' explaining how they placed the mikes.

Post by rammiepie May 23, 2012 (6 of 23)
Nagraboy said:

Rammie, have you got Michael Nesmith's Dolby Surround-encoded CD - Live at the Britt Festival? The surround sound works really well, surprised me when I heard it. The notes even have Nes' explaining how they placed the mikes.

I will certainly check it out, Nagraboy.............sorta like having a Monkee on my shoulder! Really wish they'd remaster all these DTS and DD and Dolby Surround RBCDs and DVDs for SACD multi. There ARE quite a few.

Addenda: Just ordered a copy from AmazonUK.......should have it soon. It received top reviews and I did preview some tracks.

Post by emaidel May 25, 2012 (7 of 23)
Claude said:

This was released on CD in 1997, before SACD existed.



The "surround" aspect refers to the Dolby Pro Logic encoding of the stereo signal, i.e. the non-discrete surround sound method used in the VHS era, that can be decoded by home theatre receivers

Many Telarc CD's listed "Surround" on them, and the booklet said the discs were "specially" encoded to provide a surround effect with only two speakers. I own quite a few of them, and never once experienced anything close to a surround experience from my two -channel system.

Post by Claude May 25, 2012 (8 of 23)
Here's a 1996 article on "surround CDs":

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_3_4/v3n4g.html

Post by Kutyatest May 25, 2012 (9 of 23)
emaidel said:

Many Telarc CD's listed "Surround" on them, and the booklet said the discs were "specially" encoded to provide a surround effect with only two speakers. I own quite a few of them, and never once experienced anything close to a surround experience from my two -channel system.

Yes - eaxctly my experiences also. I don't have any Telarc CDs that state "Surround" on them, but a few of my Tonmita and Andreas Vollenweider CDs do. I tend to listen to all music (however many channels) through all speakers of my 5.1 system, but I couldn't honestly say that these "Surround" CDs sound anything like it. The Vollenweider CDs do sound good on my Arcam DV137/AVR350 though. High time these were available on MCH SACD!

This has always puzzled me with CDs marked as "Surround", so thanks for the explanation. Another puzzlement (and not for one moment do I wish to send this thread off topic), is when people mention LPs as quadrophonic.

Post by teac4010 May 25, 2012 (10 of 23)
I have yet to load an advertised multichannel SACD on my Denon 1940 and find anything other than two pathetic front channels and nothing on the 4 remaining channels. The stereo channels are encoded with something, I presume Dolby which sounds real nice compared to the PCM tracks.

Any suggestions on a true multichannel SACD disc that doesn't cost an arm or leg?

I wonder if my problem could be a defective player?

Regards.

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