Thread: The long awaited successor to SACD

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Post by DSD May 13, 2012 (81 of 194)
flyingdutchman are you changing your tune? Just a few pages ago you attacked Rammiepie for using aftermarket interconnects.

BTW the Monster IL400MKII replaced my AudioQuest Turquoise interconnects as I found the sound warmer and the bass fuller with a deeper soundstage. I also tried several other Monster cables including the more expensive IL800 and super expensive M1000i, Cardas and a silver-wire interconnect which I don't remember the brand of, I settled on the IL400MKII as the best compromise of cost and sonics. The AudioQuest while not as good as the Monster was world's better than the throwaway interconnects that comes with components.

If I was rich I would get the Monster M1000i it sounded fantastic in my system, I just couldn't justify the $200 per pair price.

Post by flyingdutchman May 13, 2012 (82 of 194)
I'm being facetious (but more like talking from Rammie's perspective).

Post by DSD May 13, 2012 (83 of 194)
Thanks flyingdutchman that makes more sense, Rammiepie would definitely find my cables lacking. Rammiepie's in a different economic class than I am and can afford only what I can dream about.

Post by Kveld-Úlfr May 14, 2012 (84 of 194)
DSD said:

flyingdutchman are you changing your tune? Just a few pages ago you attacked Rammiepie for using aftermarket interconnects.

BTW the Monster IL400MKII replaced my AudioQuest Turquoise interconnects as I found the sound warmer and the bass fuller with a deeper soundstage. I also tried several other Monster cables including the more expensive IL800 and super expensive M1000i, Cardas and a silver-wire interconnect which I don't remember the brand of, I settled on the IL400MKII as the best compromise of cost and sonics. The AudioQuest while not as good as the Monster was world's better than the throwaway interconnects that comes with components.

If I was rich I would get the Monster M1000i it sounded fantastic in my system, I just couldn't justify the $200 per pair price.

Hi DSD,

As I can see you like Monster Cable products, may I ask what you think of these ones ? These are discontinued 5.1 cables, ref. M550I -SACD-2M.

I own a set of these.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/pictures_new.php?id=20319&picture_id=338496

Post by DSD May 14, 2012 (85 of 194)
Kveld-Úlfr I use the M350i with my SACD player which is one step down from the M550i and I am quite pleased with the sound quality.

I listen in 2 channel stereo.

Post by Polarius T May 14, 2012 (86 of 194)
How do you guys know what cables different labels use? Because they mention it in the CD booklet. Why do they mention it in the booklet?

It's called product promotion and sponsorship. I strongly doubt the labels pay much for those cables. If anything at all. Ask Jared whose Dutch audiophile company advertises Dutch audiophile cable products.

They get to use them against mentioning it in their booklet info. Let's not be naive about it.

Which means the cable isn't necessarily their own objective choice. Most studios use nondescript bulk cable and never think twice about it.

Their wisdom is supported by evidence from real life (not claims made on a review page of some advertisement-income based audio mag). Even the highest-carat Golden Ears can't tell a difference when they keep their eyes closed: see link in my post 5 of 71 at /showthread/75054/75061/y#75061. Pretty sobering news, I'd say.

You wanna pay more or like the aesthetic and psychological pleasure that big-money buying can bring? It's your budget. But at least one should exercise restraint in making this type of performance claims without any evidence from anywhere in support of them.

PT

Post by DSD May 14, 2012 (87 of 194)

Post by Polarius T May 14, 2012 (88 of 194)
DSD said:

Polarius http://www.stereophile.com/content/jack-renner-telarc-direct-cleveland-page-3

You do understand what being "good friends" with an equipment manufacturer/importer/rep tends to mean, don't you?

Renner in fact himself spells it out to you when talking about his dCS and Nagra importer.

This part of the process is called "product placement."

Post by seth May 14, 2012 (89 of 194)
Polarius T said:

How do you guys know what cables different labels use? Because they mention it in the CD booklet. Why do they mention it in the booklet?

It's called product promotion and sponsorship. I strongly doubt the labels pay much for those cables. If anything at all. Ask Jared whose Dutch audiophile company advertises Dutch audiophile cable products.

They get to use them against mentioning it in their booklet info. Let's not be naive about it.

Right.

I'm guessing that all the major recording studios that tout they use B&W speakers for playback in the liner notes of recordings are given those speakers at no cost (and I say that as a B&W owner).

Post by Claude May 14, 2012 (90 of 194)
This was very obvious in the 1990's EMI Classics CD booklets, which said "This recording was made using B&W speakers" and gave no other information, as if the speakers recorded the music.

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