Post by pgmdir June 23, 2012 (261 of 366)
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Thanks for posting, Ralph! It appears that no one disputes the excellence of this release. While I dislike the lack of civility that this thread sometimes evidenced, I am glad that at least it led to future clarification. Chandos is a fine label, and I certainly appreaciate your continued support of SACD.
Bill
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zeus ... the sa-cd.net database states that over 50 Chandos titles are recorded in DSD. According to the posting above from the Chandos MD, this is plainly incorrect. The label apparently understood the term:
"Recorded in DSD 5-channel surround sound"
... to mean that it was recorded onto the disc in "DSD 5 channel surround sound" . Not sure if this means it was actually recorded in stereo, but recorded to disc in mc.
Either way ... do hope you can rectify the mistake on sa-cd.net, as Chandos themselves will be doing on their web site.
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canonical said:
zeus ... the sa-cd.net database states that over 50 Chandos titles are recorded in DSD. According to the posting above from the Chandos MD, this is plainly incorrect. The label apparently understood the term:
"Recorded in DSD 5-channel surround sound"
... to mean that it was recorded onto the disc in "DSD 5 channel surround sound" . Not sure if this means it was actually recorded in stereo, but recorded to disc in mc.
Either way ... do hope you can rectify the mistake on sa-cd.net, as Chandos themselves will be doing on their web site.
Maybe people should go back who reviewed discs where they previously thought them to be DSD and retract their reviews.
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Post by raffells June 23, 2012 (264 of 366)
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flyingdutchman said:
Maybe people should go back who reviewed discs previously thought to be DSD and retract their reviews.
+1 or should that be +64.
ps some havent finished on this.
The Wicked Witch of the West has some explaining to do re her
comments (LIES) that Chandos agree they had recorded this an item 24/48.
No wonder she could not provide proof when requested....
The reported 24/48 sacd HOLST, WHICH SHE CHECKED ??????
is 24/96, straight from the CEO, Yes I already knew and have since had clarification of both the Chandos Holst sacds being 24/96.
Anyone on this site could have checked it via the download of a noise free PCM file.
Evidence of this checking may be posted on UTube very soon..Madame T Badloser should be her new name I and a few others will refer to as her official name.
"PROVEN LIAR" just on this site with links posted on other sites.
The so called suspicious Telarc item checking is also likely to be videoed for a posting on Utube.
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Post by jeff3948 June 23, 2012 (265 of 366)
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CHSA said:
Dear Jeff,
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So, to the main topic, PCM or DSD?
I have received your personal emails Jeff but thought I owe a public response to all the discussions that have been going on regarding Chandos' SACD's.
But before I do I just want to say that I take personal offense to being called a liar and a cheat but will take it no further.
The point which has upset everyone is "Recorded in DSD". This I now realise was a stupid mistake way back in our art department. The fact that an SACD has to be encoded in DSD to be manufactured was what they drew on when putting together the graphics. Of course you may well ask why I did not pick up on this. Well, I too just read it as the disc is recorded in DSD and not the original recording. Obviously I know now that the wording is misleading.
Therefore please accept my official apology for this error.
[Remaining Quote was too large to include]
Dear Ralph,
Thank you for responding. I want to publicly apologize for calling you and your relatives a liar. It was wrong of me to assume an intentional deception had been made and not just a mistake. I let the anger get the best of me. I'm so glad you explained to us what happened. You have cleared up everything for me. Your new Debussy booklet clearly states everything just as you have explained it. I'm looking forward to buying and listening to more Chandos recordings in the future. Thank you, so much.
Sincerely,
Jeff
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Post by zeus June 23, 2012 (266 of 366)
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canonical said:
zeus ... the sa-cd.net database states that over 50 Chandos titles are recorded in DSD.
Corrected. I want to thank Ralph for his clarification, and gracious response under the circumstances.
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Post by DSD June 23, 2012 (267 of 366)
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raffells said:
The Wicked Witch of the West has some explaining to do re her
comments (LIES) that Chandos agree they had recorded this an item 24/48.
No wonder she could not provide proof when requested....
Raffells no I don't have any explaining to do as I have proof positive of the 2 Chandos Holst SACDs being brickwalled at 24kHz and so does Computer Audiophile. http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f14-music-analysis-objective-and-subjective/holst-orchestral-works-vol-1-chandros-hdtracks-10351/#post127157
The plot spectrums and spectrograms do not lie, however Zeus doesn't let us post them. I said there were three possibilities:
1) a DSD recording transferred to 48kHz at some point or some editing tool with 48kHz resolution.
2) a 24/96 recording transferred to 48kHz at some point.
3) a 24/48 recording.
I never said Chandos agreed that they recorded these two SACDs in 24/48 PCM, I clearly said Chandos stated to Jeff that their in-house productions were PCM recorded NOT DSD recorded as their booklets state. This was just confirmed by Ralph Couzens /showthread/85315/88201#88201
That explains why they are PCM but it doesn't explain the brickwall filter starting at 23kHz and down by -122dB at 23,449Hz on the Holst SACDs.
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DSD said:
Raffells no I don't have any explaining to do as I have proof positive of the 2 Chandos Holst SACDs being brickwalled at 24kHz and so does Computer Audiophile. http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f14-music-analysis-objective-and-subjective/holst-orchestral-works-vol-1-chandros-hdtracks-10351/#post127157
The plot spectrums and spectrograms do not lie, however Zeus doesn't let us post them. I said there were three possibilities:
1) a DSD recording transferred to 48kHz at some point or some editing tool with 48kHz resolution.
2) a 24/96 recording transferred to 48kHz at some point.
3) a 24/48 recording.
I never said Chandos agreed that they recorded these two SACDs in 24/48 PCM, I clearly said they agreed they were NOT DSD recorded.
You still love them, right? Isn't that what matters?
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What I found more disturbing (and the PCM vs. DSD recorded status is NOT an issue with me) is that there is a single SACD pressing plant available to Chandos and should this pressing plant close we may be in jeoprady of losing Chandos as a viable SACD producing label.
And I'm sure this plant also services other labels as well so this could spell the end for more than just Chandos.
A very sad state of affairs.
Keep your fingers crossed.
And, IMO, without posting a review.....the 2 disc Debussy SACD is superb in every way with liquidy highs and a stellar command of the composer's intentions....and for a little over $20 (US)....a veritable bargain, as well!
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Post by wehecht June 23, 2012 (270 of 366)
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Right on all counts, Ralph.
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