Post by huizhu55 November 17, 2010 (1 of 41)
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Post by Claude November 18, 2010 (2 of 41)
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Here's the complete list, courtesy of a poster on the Steve Hoffman forum
Beethoven Syms 1 & 3 : Furtwangler / VPO (1952)
Beethoven Syms 2 & 4 : Furtwangler / VPO (1948, 1952)
Beethoven Syms 5 & 7 : Furtwangler / VPO (1950, 1954)
Beethoven Syms 6 & 8 : Furtwangler / VPO Stockholm PO (1948, 1952)
Beethoven Sym 9 : Furtwangler / Bayreuther Festspielhaus (1951)
Brahms Sym 1 Haydn Variations : Furtwangler / VPO (1952)
Brahms Syms 2 & 3 : Furtwangler / BPO (1949, 1952)
Brahms Sym 4 Beethoven : Furtwangler / BPO (1948)
Bruckner Sym 7 : Furtwangler / BPO (1949)
Bruckner Sym 8 : Furtwangler / BPO (1949)
Mozart Sym 40 Haydn Sym 94 Gluck : Furtwangler / VPO
Mozart Serenade 10 13 : Furtwangler / VPO
Orchestral music Vol. 1: Furtwangler / VPO PO
Orchestral music Vol. 2: Furtwangler / VPO BPO
Orchestral works by Cherubini Weber Mendelssohn Berlioz Nicolai J. Strauss : F urtwangler / VPO
Schubert Sym 8 Rosamunde Schumann : Furtwangler / VPO
R. Strauss Don Juan Tod Und Verklarung Till Eulenspiegel Smetana : Furtwangler / VPO
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Post by Castor November 18, 2010 (3 of 41)
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Is there any point in issuing these recordings on SACD?
I await enlightenment from someone out there.
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TAHRA released a Furtwangler SACD and the sound is very good, they have released a few SACD's of Historical material in fact...
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Post by Claude November 18, 2010 (5 of 41)
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Castor said:
Is there any point in issuing these recordings on SACD?
Not from a technical point of view, because with such historical recordings, the source material choice and restoration procedure is much more important than the format.
But there is a marketing reason for choosing SACD. If a label wants to sell these recordings - which are also available on budget CDs - for $40 per disc, it must offer them on the best sounding format, because at that price there should be no compromise.
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Post by stvnharr November 18, 2010 (6 of 41)
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Chalkperson said:
TAHRA released a Furtwangler SACD and the sound is very good, they have released a few SACD's of Historical material in fact...
There is only 1 sacd from Tahra listed on this site, the Furtwangler Beethoven Ninth.
What are the others? And if they exist perhaps you should notify Zeus so that he can add them.
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Post by ramesh November 18, 2010 (7 of 41)
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If these remasterings are the work of the Toshiba-EMI engineer Yoshio Okazaki, then yes.
I have five of these F reissues on CDs issued by EMI Japan, all engineered by Okazaki, plus numerous others also remastered by him from the EMI catalogue-- Klemperer, , Giulini, Sviatoslav Richter, Rostropovich, Karajan etc.
In every single case, the Okazaki reissue sounds better than the EMI 'ART' remasters from the mid 1990s on-- notably a freer, more open string sound, and laughably better than the first EMI CD remasterings.
Case in point, I played to a classical piano teacher friend [ who does lieder accompanying ], the F Wagner Tristan prelude and transfiguration [ culled from F's complete studio recording with Flagstad ], which is listed here. I also played him the same sections from the very recent Domingo-Pappano Tristan on EMI. Despite the 50+ years separating the two, and the stereo of the latter, he said that the sound of the 1952 F in the Japanese remaster was very nearly as good in terms of lack of digital glare etc as the recent Domingo recording!
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Post by stvnharr November 19, 2010 (9 of 41)
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Post by jdaniel November 19, 2010 (10 of 41)
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Castor said:
Is there any point in issuing these recordings on SACD?
I await enlightenment from someone out there.
Yes, within the world of mono there are degrees of recorded excellence. If I ruled the world I'd release his Tristan with Flagstad from EMI, recorded I believe in Kingsway Hall in '53.. I have early tube/valve-cut Lp's and they're extremely revealing and "warm." Probably the "height" of large-scale mono done right. There is no better Tristan, artistically. One doesn't want it to end. I'd also add the Flagstad Immolation with the Philharmonia on EMI too, if one wants to hear "cosmic" Wagner, but it will spoil most other modern attempts.
However, I own some of those DGG's listed above and not all are in the same league. Artistry aside, the re-masterer is going to have to work miracles. Must haves would probably have to be the Brahms 4th and the Bruckner 9th. The '44 Beethoven 9th is far better than the '51...
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