Thread: Analog: Back to the future

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Post by Khorn December 26, 2005 (21 of 25)
gfresh said:

I here alot of people talk about analog in terms of like or dislike it's equalization and compression, as if that is the only thing that sets it apart from PCM. DSD is the proof of just what analog has that PCM doesn't. It's called filtering and it is why SACD an 2 inch tape sound fat, three dimensional and spacious, while PCM sounds flat and cold. PCM digital is inferior because it does not capture an extremely important element of the sound, not just because it sounds a little different.

I'll still stand by what I have said in this review as far as PCM is concerned:

Joe Weed: The Vultures

Post by DSD December 26, 2005 (22 of 25)
Khorn said:

I'll still stand by what I have said in this review as far as PCM is concerned:

Joe Weed: The Vultures

Khorn how did you find out this way 24/96 PCM? The words PCM or 24/96 are not anywhere on the case or in the booklet.

In the booklet: Recorded and mixed to Digital at Highland Studios, Los Gatos, CA.

On the case: High Quality Master Recording, SACD symbol, DSD symbol, High Precision Mastering, Non-distortion Technology.

I do agree it's a very realistic and sonically pleasing recording. Plus surf music done Bluesgrass style with percussion is very, very cool.

Teresa

Post by Khorn December 27, 2005 (23 of 25)
Wow, strange. My copy has "24 Bits/96KHZ Mastering Technology" prominently displayed on both the back of the 'tray card' as well as the back of the insert booklet. Mine is Top Music SACD-1028 and is a Hybrid. I don't think it matters what format it would be done in as according to my copy, the original recording is listed as 24 Bits/96KHZ.

A friend of mine ordered his from England I think around or a little before you were looking for yours. I'll check with him when he unpacks his discs (he recently moved) and let you know if his copy is any different than mine which I bought here in Canada a few years ago.

PS: Mine doesn't have the "High Precision Mastering, Non-distortion Technology"
anywhere on it. Mine lists "DSD mastering support by Philips SACD team in Netherlands" as well as "made in EU".

I don't know what gives here??

Post by DSD December 27, 2005 (24 of 25)
Khorn said:

Wow, strange. My copy has "24 Bits/96KHZ Mastering Technology" prominently displayed on both the back of the 'tray card' as well as the back of the insert booklet. Mine is Top Music SACD-1028 and is a Hybrid. I don't think it matters what format it would be done in as according to my copy, the original recording is listed as 24 Bits/96KHZ.

A friend of mine ordered his from England I think around or a little before you were looking for yours. I'll check with him when he unpacks his discs (he recently moved) and let you know if his copy is any different than mine which I bought here in Canada a few years ago.

PS: Mine doesn't have the "High Precision Mastering, Non-distortion Technology"
anywhere on it. Mine lists "DSD mastering support by Philips SACD team in Netherlands" as well as "made in EU".

I don't know what gives here??

Could they have changed "24 Bits/96KHZ Mastering Technology" to "High Precision Mastering, Non-distortion Technology" to avoid any loss of sales to people who are only buying DSD and Analog mastered SACDs? Very curious indeed. Mine also says Top Music International SACD 1028-2 but mine is "made in Japan" not the EU.

Post by Khorn December 28, 2005 (25 of 25)
A couple of clarifications. My Vultures SACD originally came in one of those weird heavy book style cases about twice as thick and longer in length than a regular or even SACD plastic jewel box. I had someone copy the back of the enclosed booklet to act as a tray card as I transferred the disc to a regular CD jewel case for convenience.

They really made a point of emphasizing the 24Bits/96 KHZ on the box and booklet so I find it strange that they would change later on.

A few years back I was really impressed with the sound quality of a CD recording by Diane Schuur so I talked to the recording engineer and was surprised to find that he had used a VTR and Sony PCM unit for the recording. I guess it goes to show that it’s the engineering talent of the person at the controls not necessarily the platform that is the ultimate deciding factor in the quality of a recording. Of course given better tools a talented engineer can achieve more.

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