Thread: Is the Lexicon BD-30 and OPPO BDP-83 one and the same?

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Post by rammiepie January 19, 2010 (1 of 5)
From Hi-Def Digest: One is tank~like and the other less imposing but a $3000 difference in price [The Lexicon is $3500, the OPPO $499] does not begin to tell the tale of a supposed Dupe job Lexicon has perpetrated on the public. The Lexicon carries (or carried) THX certification but upon opening both units, it is as though Lexicon cleverly swallowed the OPPO BDP-83 whole into its chassis. Home Theater Mag says NO: that the Lexicon has better contrast and a sharper image but for those who want the versatility of a Universal Player be aware because audio~wise, there is NO discernible difference which is why Lexicon has removed the THX certification from its ads. I believe, another poster on this site pointed out the extreme similarities, but it now seems that the cat is indeed out of the bag.

Hot off the Press: Supposedly the $10,000 Ayre DX-5 is accused of a similar hoax and if used through HDMI is also a rebadged OPPO BDP-83.

The audio cheapskates on this site are going to have a celebration, but seriously, folks, if this is the case (and so far, I believe it is), a well~deserved SHAME ON YOU to both Ayre and Lexicon is in order

Which bodes well for the ingenuity displayed by OPPO in his implementation of the BDP-83 and from what I've read, the analogue output of the BDP-83 SE version in stereo also bests the $10K Ayre.

And somewhere in this mess the Theta Compli-blu is also suspect......

Whatever happened to honesty being the best policy?

Post by Kal Rubinson January 19, 2010 (2 of 5)
rammiepie said:

From Hi-Def Digest: One is tank~like and the other less imposing but a $3000 difference in price [The Lexicon is $3500, the OPPO $499] does not begin to tell the tale of a supposed Dupe job Lexicon has perpetrated on the public. The Lexicon carries (or carried) THX certification but upon opening both units, it is as though Lexicon cleverly swallowed the OPPO BDP-83 whole into its chassis.

Hot off the Press: Supposedly the $10,000 Ayre DX-5 is accused of a similar hoax and if used through HDMI is also a rebadged OPPO BDP-83.

Which bodes well for the ingenuity displayed by OPPO in his implementation of the BDP-83 and from what I've read, the analogue output of the BDP-83 SE version in stereo also bests the $10K Ayre.

And somewhere in this mess the Theta Compli-blu is also suspect......

Whatever happened to honesty being the best policy?

The truth requires a bit more subtlety as the situation is different with each of the so-called Oppo clones. I will not comment at this time about the Lexicon as my review/comments are in press now (March Stereophile). Ayre, on the other hand, completely deconstructs the Oppo and builds their own machine using some of the original parts but, bottom line, the DX-5 is functionally distinct from the Oppo. I hope to have one for review in March. AFAIK, no one has ever compared the Ayre DX-5 with either Oppo.

I know less about the Theta but it will have a linear PS (rather than Oppo's switcher) and, I believe, balanced outputs.

This whole issue has spread like wild-fire and not all postings are accurate.

Kal

Post by Disbeliever January 20, 2010 (3 of 5)
The only High in most High End Audio is the price & over engineered casework.

Post by jullepoika January 20, 2010 (4 of 5)
Lexicon is pure Oppo on the inside, only the back plate has been replaced and front plate covered with Lexicon plate. Yes, covered, not replaced, as dismantling the display would be too costly...

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/transports/high-definition-dvd-players-hd-dvd-blu-ray/lexicon-bd-30-blu-ray-oppo-clone

Post by Claude January 20, 2010 (5 of 5)
Discussion already started here:

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