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Discussion: Mahler: Symphony No. 9 - Gilbert

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Post by pgmdir September 4, 2009 (31 of 48)
terence said:

is gilbert a former rank and file player with the NYPO? or am i mixing him up with someone else?

His parents--- Dad's retired, but Mom's still playing the fiddle.

Post by Cherubino September 4, 2009 (32 of 48)
bissie said:

Having a world-class genius like Martin Fröst onboard, no, sorry.
I strongly believe in loyalty, and we've had Martin from his beginning. He is now regarded as one of the top 3 in the world, and we're deliriously happy that he records for us.

Robert

No argument about Mr. Frost. Your loyalty is well placed and to be admired.

Post by seth September 4, 2009 (33 of 48)
pgmdir said:

His parents--- Dad's retired, but Mom's still playing the fiddle.

He was a sub violinist with the Philadelphia Orchestra for like two years.

Post by pgmdir September 4, 2009 (34 of 48)
seth said:

He was a sub violinist with the Philadelphia Orchestra for like two years.

Did not know that... Thanks for the info.

Post by pgmdir September 9, 2009 (35 of 48)
I know that it has nothing to do with this marvelous Mahler 9, which I heartily recommend, but since many of you have recommeded Szell, I wanted to let you know that I got my Szell Mahler 6 on the DSD remaster RBCD "Great Performances" edition, and thoroughly enjoyed it. I still prefer my Fischer and Gergiev SACDs on Mahler 6, but not because they are SACDs. Szell was a genius, often sabotaged by CBS's weak engineering, but my feeling is that he played Mahler like he was Strauss. But... that's just my feeling. And this Mahler 6 was a live recording by his radio people. I sincerely thank Seth and others who suggested Szell. I'd love to hear his Mahler 9!

Post by stvnharr September 13, 2009 (36 of 48)
Thanks to everyone for talking/writing this one up in spades. After the last post I had to order it, it just arrived, and I just listened. Fabulous!!!!!!

Post by Fugue September 13, 2009 (37 of 48)
stvnharr said:

Thanks to everyone for talking/writing this one up in spades. After the last post I had to order it, it just arrived, and I just listened. Fabulous!!!!!!

I like it very much, too. I must say, though, that no recording has the tombone blasts (followed by tympani whacks) in the first movement with the same sense of menace that the old Solti on Decca has.

Post by Polarius T July 2, 2012 (38 of 48)
This was just included in Gramphone's list of the most outstanding Mahler 9ths on record, issued on the occasion of the work's 100th anniversary.

Comparison is made to Abbado (the absolute benchmark in this work for me, too), with an additional note that "On a technical level this must, surely, be the finest recording the work has received."

http://www.gramophone.co.uk/features/focus/mahlers-ninth-a-centenary-celebration?utm_source=Silverpop&utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=GRAM%20ENews%20Bulletin%20(02.07.2012)&utm_content=article1_headline

Post by fausto K July 2, 2012 (39 of 48)
Polarius T said:

"On a technical level this must, surely, be the finest recording the work has received."

That strikes me as hugely hyperbolic. Gilbert + Royal Stockholm is no match for Abbado and his Lucerne band. Typically odd (British) choice to include the wayward Norrington and also the rather so-so Rattle/BPO, when clearly there are far better recordings, e.g. Chailly/RCO (in DSD moreover!), which on a technical level (interpretation and sound) is surely one of the best. I'm also surprised that Nott is not included in the list. For the broadest tempos I'd recommend the mesmerizing recording by Oue/NDR on Exton: an outsider perhaps but with exquisite sound.
It's a pity that the very recent Haitink 9 with the Bayerischer Rundfunk - just out - is only on RBCD. From first impressions, it's a very good recording.

Post by seth July 2, 2012 (40 of 48)
fausto K said:

That strikes me as hugely hyperbolic. Gilbert + Royal Stockholm is no match for Abbado and his Lucerne band. Typically odd (British) choice to include the wayward Norrington and also the rather so-so Rattle/BPO, when clearly there are far better recordings, e.g. Chailly/RCO (in DSD moreover!), which on a technical level (interpretation and sound) is surely one of the best. I'm also surprised that Nott is not included in the list. For the broadest tempos I'd recommend the mesmerizing recording by Oue/NDR on Exton: an outsider perhaps but with exquisite sound.
It's a pity that the very recent Haitink 9 with the Bayerischer Rundfunk - just out - is only on RBCD. From first impressions, it's a very good recording.

It wouldn't be a Gramophone list unless Rattle and Karajan are included.

Not surprised that Gielen's superb 9th isn't on the list -- Gramophone seems to be totally oblivious to his cycle.

And Levine's RCA 9th which is finally available again deserves praise.

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