Thread: King Crimson Quad Remasters: DVD-Audio Format confirmed

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Post by wolf359 October 19, 2009 (71 of 85)
Lee Scoggins said:

I spoke to someone involved heavily in the Super Audio format recently and Wish You Were Here is actually expected to come out soon. The entire project is already done.

I know this has been a rumor for some time but this is recent information based on someone who worked with James Guthrie on the project.

A Pink Floyd release might inject a little life yet into this hard to kill format. :)

Post by rammiepie October 16, 2009 (68 of 70) reply
I have a sneaking suspicion that with time, SACD will have the same resurgence as Vinyl has seen. Let's face it, the hardware is improving dramatically (DCS, EMM, Cary, Marantz, blu~ray Universal players, etc) and with the hefty prices commanded by 180g pressings SACD is a bargain in today's market.

Pink Floyds Wish you were here has been rumoured to be coming out for years on SACD As the follow up to Dark Side of the Moon it would a natural,however I can't see it myself. If EMI say the release of the Beatles in SACD would be too expensive and not viable what makes The Floyd more likely. I would like to know how close the source of this information is to the EMI team who decide on release and format policy. I think it will be if anything a DVD-A or possibly in the future a BR-audio. SACD is unlikely but i would be delighted to be proved wrong. A quick search for this title on google in its SACD form reveals the extent of the intrest in this Hi-rez none appearance.

Rammiepie
I agree with you about the appearance of more and more SACD hardware, it seems that the hardware manufacturers are ahead of the game, the problem is with the supply of discs. I am not sure what the production capacity of an SACD pressing plant is but it seems to me that these are few and far between. This coupled with the premium prices being charged for production of SACDs probably is one of the reasons that SACD's are not repressed. On the Alison Krauss thread Rounder Records state that they were not selling enough SACD's to make them a viable proposition and in addition cite the rise of MP3. I wonder if this is true? How many sales it takes to make a viable proposition is something I've always wondered about. It becomes a chicken and egg situation
people can't buy the discs they want because they are not available, but because they are not available there is no demand. The increasing amount of SACD players may change this ,but it is still a very small audiophile group who are trying to over come the inertia of the record companies. One thought strikes me is that I wonder if any of the big Internet sellers such as Amazon,E bay etc feed back the demand for SACD to the Record companies to enable them to make decisions about releases or is it all done in house. The number of SACD searches I've done on the Amazon site should surely count for something

Post by rammiepie October 19, 2009 (72 of 85)
It seems the entire record industry is on hiatus. According to Rolling Stones, more and more artists are breaking away from the "album" format, instead releasing sporadic singles throughout the year on the internet. I DO, however, believe that with the proliferation of SACD hardware coupled with blu-ray Universal players, the future release of SACD software will be akin to Vinyl which was all but crippled by the intro of RBCD. Let us not forget, that Turntables only improved with the demise of vinyl manufacture and the new release schedule of Vinyl far surpasses that of any other hi-rez format. SACD hardware and replication of SACDs has also improved dramatically so the analogy is not far-fetched. We're still getting DVD-A releases and that format supposedly died long ago, but I think it's more artist dependent. When asked in this month's Sound/Vision, whether we could expect 5.1 surround remasters of the entire Beatles catalog, the answer was: "When we are given the go-ahead, we're more than ready and willing" (paraphrase). But the same article went on to say that neither Paul nor Ringo had 5.1 surround in their audio arsenal and had to listen to the 5.1 remixes of Yellow Submarine at Abbey Road Studios. No offense to the classical purists among us but SACD needs a major boost of popular fare because no newbies will be attracted to a very, very top-heavy classical SACD catalog.......bring it on!

Post by Lee Scoggins October 19, 2009 (73 of 85)
wolf359 said:

Pink Floyds Wish you were here has been rumoured to be coming out for years on SACD As the follow up to Dark Side of the Moon it would a natural,however I can't see it myself. If EMI say the release of the Beatles in SACD would be too expensive and not viable what makes The Floyd more likely. I would like to know how close the source of this information is to the EMI team who decide on release and format policy. I think it will be if anything a DVD-A or possibly in the future a BR-audio. SACD is unlikely but i would be delighted to be proved wrong. A quick search for this title on google in its SACD form reveals the extent of the intrest in this Hi-rez none appearance.

All I can tell is that I spoke to a senior source that was part of the project. He confirmed WYWH on SACD was finished and coming out. It was a central figure in the SACD and mastering worlds. I believe he said it just took a while to get band approval which is not a surprise for those of us who follow Pink Floyd.

I do understand the skepticism given the history but I believe this will happen.

Post by hookedondsd October 19, 2009 (74 of 85)
Lee Scoggins said:

All I can tell is that I spoke to a senior source that was part of the project. He confirmed WYWH on SACD was finished and coming out. It was a central figure in the SACD and mastering worlds. I believe he said it just took a while to get band approval which is not a surprise for those of us who follow Pink Floyd.

I do understand the skepticism given the history but I believe this will happen.

Someone on another forum has heard the finished product. Can't wait!

Post by hookeve October 20, 2009 (75 of 85)
Lee Scoggins dijo:

Todo lo que puedo decir es que hablé con una alta fuente que formó parte del proyecto. Confirmó WYWH en SACD había terminado y saliendo. Fue una figura central en la SACD y el dominio de los mundos. Creo que dijo que sólo tomó un tiempo para obtener la aprobación de banda que no es una sorpresa para aquellos de nosotros que siga Pink Floyd.

Entiendo el escepticismo, dada la historia, pero creo que esto va a suceder.

In the Nick Mason's Pink Floyd Inside Out you can view the new WYWH Storm Thorgenson's artwork.

Otherwise, you can download a 5.1 multichannel remix in DVD-A 24/96 format which is not the original quad mix/version.

It sounds esplendid. I think that was the multichannel SACD new mix version.

Post by audioholik October 20, 2009 (76 of 85)
Lee Scoggins said:

All I can tell is that I spoke to a senior source that was part of the project. He confirmed WYWH on SACD was finished and coming out. It was a central figure in the SACD and mastering worlds. I believe he said it just took a while to get band approval which is not a surprise for those of us who follow Pink Floyd.

I do understand the skepticism given the history but I believe this will happen.

it will be a very important release for the future of the Hybrid SACD format.

I hope it sells well... but that we can be sure of, I think, as hybrid SACD (contrary to DVD-A) can be played on any CD player.

Post by 51surr October 20, 2009 (77 of 85)
I'm certainly not holding my breath for WYWH. But this is the thread for King Crimson not Pink Floyd.

Post by Paul Clark October 20, 2009 (78 of 85)
51surr said:

I'm certainly not holding my breath for WYWH. But this is the thread for King Crimson not Pink Floyd.

It's also a web site for SACD not DVD-a.

Post by rammiepie October 20, 2009 (79 of 85)
Not to sound contradictory, but my original thread listed that King Crimson would be released in a 5.1 format and at the time, I assumed it would be SACD but it was later confirmed as DVD-A. This was only a follow~up thread confirming the DVD-A status. Since the thread received over 5600 hits, I assume that people with Universal Players who are not 100% classical purists could avail themselves of these new releases. No harm done, my dear comrade, Paul Clark! And yes, I'm excited by the prospect of the SACD release of PF "Wish You Were Here." Rock 'n Roll!

Post by Paul Clark October 20, 2009 (80 of 85)
rammiepie said:

Not to sound contradictory, but my original thread listed that King Crimson would be released in a 5.1 format and at the time, I assumed it would be SACD but it was later confirmed as DVD-A. Since the thread received over 5600 hits, I assume that people with Universal Players who are not 100% classical purists could avail themselves of these new releases. No harm done, my dear comrade, Paul Clark!

I would think that the vast majority of SA-CD visitors are endowed with superior intelligence to be able to use a search engine. We don't need a nanny, Professor Rammie.

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