Thread: Has anyone tried Sony Music's new GREEN SACDs? And what did you think?

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Post by DSD April 13, 2009 (1 of 25)
So far all are reissues of SACDs already out, the links below are to the new Green SACD versions and a couple do have short reviews. Sounds promising.

Here are the first titles:
M. Sasaji & L. A. Allstars: Birdland
M. Sasaji & L. A. Allstars: Afro Blue
Sacred Rhythm of Bali
Masayoshi Takanaka: The Man with the Guitar
Allan Holdsworth: All Night Wrong
Emi Fujita: Camomile Best Audio

From the news report: http://www.multimediamanufacturer.com/reports/index.htm

Remember the controversy over defacing CDs with green felt-tip pens? The aim was to improve sound quality by absorbing stray red laser reflections that might cause jitter in the data read from the disc. Sony’s audio division in Japan is now backing an intriguing project which tests the theory.

A batch of new SACDs from Sony Music has green labels. This is not “green” to help the environment; it’s to help audio quality by lightening the burden on the servo mechanism for the player’s tracking head and to introduce fewer errors for the player’s error correction to handle.

Sony UK’s audio guru, Eric Kingdon, was demonstrating a high-end Sony system at IFA in Berlin, using a green label SACD version of the L.A. Allstars (Birdland: XSCL-10004).

Other green label SACDs include the L.A. Allstars “Afro Blue” (XSCL-10005); Sacred Rhythm of Bali (XSCL-10007); Masayoshi Takanaka “The Man With The Guitar” (XSCL-10006); Allan Holdsworth “All night wrong” (XSCP-1000); and Emi Fujita “Camomile Best Audio” (PCCA-60019 from Pony Canyon).

The project was inspired by Sony’s Japanese audio engineers Takashi Kanai and Motoyuki Sugiura.

Sugiura has compared the new green label SACDs with the original SACDs of around five years ago and finds the difference “amazing.”

Sony plans public demonstrations at audio shows so that interested consumers can judge for themselves.

Post by flyingdutchman April 13, 2009 (2 of 25)
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Post by Cherubino April 13, 2009 (3 of 25)
DSD said:

So far all are reissues of SACDs already out, the links below are to the new Green SACD versions and a couple do have short reviews. Sounds promising.

Here are the first titles:
M. Sasaji & L. A. Allstars: Birdland
M. Sasaji & L. A. Allstars: Afro Blue
Sacred Rhythm of Bali
Masayoshi Takanaka: The Man with the Guitar
Allan Holdsworth: All Night Wrong
Emi Fujita: Camomile Best Audio

From the news report: http://www.multimediamanufacturer.com/reports/index.htm

Remember the controversy over defacing CDs with green felt-tip pens? The aim was to improve sound quality by absorbing stray red laser reflections that might cause jitter in the data read from the disc. Sony’s audio division in Japan is now backing an intriguing project which tests the theory.

A batch of new SACDs from Sony Music has green labels. This is not “green” to help the environment; it’s to help audio quality by lightening the burden on the servo mechanism for the player’s tracking head and to introduce fewer errors for the player’s error correction to handle.

Sony UK’s audio guru, Eric Kingdon, was demonstrating a high-end Sony system at IFA in Berlin, using a green label SACD version of the L.A. Allstars (Birdland: XSCL-10004).

Other green label SACDs include the L.A. Allstars “Afro Blue” (XSCL-10005); Sacred Rhythm of Bali (XSCL-10007); Masayoshi Takanaka “The Man With The Guitar” (XSCL-10006); Allan Holdsworth “All night wrong” (XSCP-1000); and Emi Fujita “Camomile Best Audio” (PCCA-60019 from Pony Canyon).

The project was inspired by Sony’s Japanese audio engineers Takashi Kanai and Motoyuki Sugiura.

Sugiura has compared the new green label SACDs with the original SACDs of around five years ago and finds the difference “amazing.”

Sony plans public demonstrations at audio shows so that interested consumers can judge for themselves.

Thanks for the correction.

Post by DSD April 13, 2009 (4 of 25)
Cherubino said:

Sounds like another marketing gimmick to get you to re-purchase CDs you already have; most likely at a premium price. Far better to remaster and release these titles on SACD, but, I suppose it's cheaper to reissue RBCD on green plastic than remaster on clear plastic for SACD. Is Al Gore involved with this?

This are Green SACDs not RBCDs.

Post by FullRangeMan April 13, 2009 (5 of 25)
This is a great free tuning for a sure better audio performance. A aftermarket green bath device can cost hundrets of dollars.
One more reason for put the SACD on TOP OF THE WORLD in sound quality. Thankyou Teresa for inform us of this release.
Full
P.S.: Seems SONY is awaking in respect to SACD Market or am I wrong ?

Post by soundboy April 13, 2009 (6 of 25)
The Emi Fujita SACD was released last year, and in the liner notes, it was mentioned that it was the very first Green SACD release. However, at the time of its release, nothing was written about it in the Western audiophile press. The data side of the disc is actually green in color. As for whether he green disc contributes to its excellent sound quality, that's debatable. It is, however, an awesome sounding SACD.

Btw, there're actually 2 versions of the Emi Fujita SACD....one for the Japanese market and one for Hong Kong. The HK version is only for that specific market since the liner notes is written in Traditional Chinese. Otherwise, the green SACD itself was pressed in Japan.

Post by rammiepie April 13, 2009 (7 of 25)
I own the Alan Holdsworth SACD and I never thought that the almost metallic label on the disc was for audio-medicinal purposes...GREAT MULTI-CHANNEL RECORDING BTW. But the green ink (cd stoplight) was always more effective around the edges and I always use a cd damper atop the disc. In fact last night I was listening to an HDAD 192/24 of Cannonball Adderley's SO WHAT on my Meridian 808 with a SIM green damper atop the disc and yes, I "desecrated" the disc by buffing it with MAPLESHADE POLISH, GREEN INKING THE EDGE AND POLISHING IT WITH WALKER'S "ULTRA-VIVID. Through my Meridian 861 processor, I first played it in Direct (two channel); sounded great but something was missing. When I switched my DSP mode to ProLogicII, the album sounded startingly contemporary (the sound, that is.....Miles' trumpet and Cannonball's alto sax were you are there present.....Only Hank Jones distant sounding piano betrays the age of the recording. Putting the same damper on my Marantz SA-11S2 Player for the first time finally involved me in the music in a way it had not before. The Marantz and cables are still breaking in but I heard that the new Millennium cd carbon fiber damper (ultra wafer thin/black on top and green underbelly is the new standard for most machines including the OPPO which it supposedly does miracles for. This isn't snake oil....it's ANACONDA territory!

Post by wolf359 April 14, 2009 (8 of 25)
Not sure about this. If SACD is as good as everybody claims why tweak? I doubt that Sony are showing a re awakening of intrest in the format. I think it more likely that if they applied this techonlogy to RBCD any changes would be minimal but by applying it to SACDS they can claim a dramatic improvement knowing that the vast majority do not know the difference between the two. They (Sony)of course forgeting that the format is superior anyway. It would be much more relevant if this would be applied to an RBCD to enable a direct comparision to be made. There have been comments about snake oil already. The only comment I would make why is everyone busy improving RBCD which is pointless in the light of an existence of a better format which everyone who hears it wants its.

Post by Claude April 14, 2009 (9 of 25)
flyingdutchman said:

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Ditto

Post by Polly Nomial April 14, 2009 (10 of 25)
flyingdutchman said:

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