Post by channel April 5, 2009 (1 of 36)
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I am very happy to inform you that Channel Classics release CCS SA 25308, Pieter Wispelwey, Shostakovich 2nd cello concerto will receive a BBC Music Magazine Award 2009, for "Technical Excellence in Recording".
The awards ceremony will take place on April 7 this tuesday in London.
In my interviews for this award, I have done my best to highlight the DSD aspect concerning the quality of the recording. Especially since most listeners are listening in PCM mode, at least they are getting the most out of their system with the master recording being of the highest quality before the downsampling is done.
Let us see if BBC actually emphasis the DSD aspect. Maybe this forum can also pick up on this in writing to BBC music magazine to support DSD and this award. We still must educate not only the general public, but the magazines as well.
Jared Sacks
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Post by hiredfox April 5, 2009 (3 of 36)
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Superb recording and fully deserved. Those PCM listeners don't know what they are missing. Congrats to all at Channel Classics.
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Post by pgmdir April 5, 2009 (4 of 36)
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My congratulations as well!
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Post by emaidel April 6, 2009 (5 of 36)
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channel said:
Let us see if BBC actually emphasis the DSD aspect. Maybe this forum can also pick up on this in writing to BBC music magazine to support DSD and this award. We still must educate not only the general public, but the magazines as well.
Jared Sacks
I'm with you 100% on this. On other audio-based websites ("audioreview.com for example) most members have no interest whatsoever in the SACD format, and have even gone so far as to dismiss it as a "fad that came and went," or a format that deserves "to be blown off."
Surprisingly, most audiophiles, though not those at this site, just don't listen to classical music. That's a phenomenon I've noticed in my over 30 years in the consumer electronics business (I'm retired now though). That said, since most SACD's are classical, these "experts" dismiss the format all but entirely since they have no interest in hearing the clearest, most lifelike musical detail ever that only an SACD can provide.
Education is definitely needed, and this site is only a launching pad.
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Post by Claude April 6, 2009 (6 of 36)
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Congratulations Jared!
So it's about SACD vs CD, not about DSD vs PCM? I think it would be confusing to promote the "DSD aspect of the recording" when it is really about the advanteges of high resolution in general, i.e. DSD and hi-rez PCM.
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Post by tommwi April 6, 2009 (7 of 36)
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Claude said:
Congratulations Jared!
So it's about SACD vs CD, not about DSD vs PCM? I think it would be confusing to promote the "DSD aspect of the recording" when it is really about the advanteges of high resolution in general, i.e. DSD and hi-rez PCM.
Good point. Very good point and perhaps it could even be taken further towards customer benefits. How about the best sounding (CD compatible) disc format? Or the best sounding CD compatible format with mch capability. Such is much easier to understand than SACD/CD or worse DSD/PCM... The DSD talk is a big misstake and should be left to whoever do the recordings, despite its recognisable benefits to some few listeners! Completely worthless for the majority of music-interested people.
The discussion on how to present SACD has probably been underestimated!
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Post by tream April 6, 2009 (8 of 36)
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tommwi said:
Good point. Very good point and perhaps it could even be taken further towards customer benefits. How about the best sounding (CD compatible) disc format? Or the best sounding CD compatible format with mch capability. Such is much easier to understand than SACD/CD or worse DSD/PCM... The DSD talk is a big misstake and should be left to whoever do the recordings, despite its recognisable benefits to some few listeners! Completely worthless for the majority of music-interested people.
The discussion on how to present SACD has probably been underestimated!
Hmmmm - I believe that DSD sourced and analog sourced SACD's sound better than PCM based SACD's. I know that not everyone agrees - but quite often I have heard a lack of bloom in the music, coupled with a slight desiccation, especially in the strings in a recording, and when I have checked, it has been a PCM based recording. For example, as much as I like and appreciate Bis as a label and Robert for his dedication and passion, I could hear these traits in the Vanska Beethoven 5th before I knew it was PCM based. I think it is a worthwhile debate to have if we are attempting to obtain the best quality sound possible.
I know that Robert and his team have done tests...so why do I hear these things in PCM?
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Post by Claude April 6, 2009 (9 of 36)
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The important thing is to promote SACD. All current classical recordings are being made in high resolution (PCM or DSD) and it's essential that these are being released on a format that preserves the resolution.
Whether the recording format is DSD or PCM is of secondary nature, even if it is relevant for some of the most demanding listeners.
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Post by channel April 6, 2009 (10 of 36)
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Claude said:
The important thing is to promote SACD. All current classical recordings are being made in high resolution (PCM or DSD) and it's essential that these are being released on a format that preserves the resolution.
Whether the recording format is DSD or PCM is of secondary nature, even if it is relevant for some of the most demanding listeners.
I agree that maybe staying away from the DSD/pcm game is not useful. The format however of SACD has something for everyone. Especially with its backward compatable cd layer. With the hardware manufacturers always trying to sell boxes and thereby continue to confuse consumers with new gadgets, our message is simple. If you want high resolution quality recordings - it is there. And there are almost 6000 cd's available to chose from so it is not a software issue.
I will be sure to get this message out tomorrow in my thank you.
jared
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