Post by diw August 23, 2008 (1 of 8)
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Quick question, has anybody had a chance to compare the Bosch and Brychkov recordings? Opinions? I only want to pick one.
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Post by aoqd22 August 23, 2008 (2 of 8)
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diw said:
Quick question, has anybody had a chance to compare the Bosch and Brychkov recordings? Opinions? I only want to pick one.
Difficult decision particularly when there are detailed and positive reviews on this website for both recordings! I have both SACDs and will probably play the Bychkov performance more often than the Bosch. For me it comes down to soloists and the recording.
The Bosch is recorded live in a cathedral so lots of atmosphere but the downside is here and there the choir get a touch lost in the acoustic when the orchestra are at full stretch. As for the soloists I hear notes sometimes being eased into rather than hit straight off and here and there a touch too much vibrato for my personal taste. With Bychkov I sense a more Italian performance and more of a natural forward pace whereas Bosch sounds a shade Germanic and just, well, a bit faster here and there - the Bosch performance is overall around 3 minutes faster which is probably why it gets onto a single disc (one of the main reasons why I bought it!).
I have lived with the Shaw RBCD performance on Telarc for over 15 years. The Bosch and Bychkov SACD recordings have reminded me just how satisfying that recording is and that with a touch of Bychkov's forward pacing it would have become a gramophone classic!
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Post by diw August 24, 2008 (3 of 8)
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both reviews are quite positive, one reason why I am having a hard time deciding which to go for. The Bosch would be easier to get in the US. Thanks for your comments.
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Post by toddao August 24, 2008 (4 of 8)
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aoqd22 said:
Difficult decision particularly when there are detailed and positive reviews on this website for both recordings! I have both SACDs and will probably play the Bychkov performance more often than the Bosch. For me it comes down to soloists and the recording.
The Bosch is recorded live in a cathedral so lots of atmosphere but the downside is here and there the choir get a touch lost in the acoustic when the orchestra are at full stretch. As for the soloists I hear notes sometimes being eased into rather than hit straight off and here and there a touch too much vibrato for my personal taste. With Bychkov I sense a more Italian performance and more of a natural forward pace whereas Bosch sounds a shade Germanic and just, well, a bit faster here and there - the Bosch performance is overall around 3 minutes faster which is probably why it gets onto a single disc (one of the main reasons why I bought it!).
I have lived with the Shaw RBCD performance on Telarc for over 15 years. The Bosch and Bychkov SACD recordings have reminded me just how satisfying that recording is and that with a touch of Bychkov's forward pacing it would have become a gramophone classic!
Is there any use of the surrounds as say in the Harnoncourt RCA ?
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Post by aoqd22 August 25, 2008 (5 of 8)
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toddao said:
Is there any use of the surrounds as say in the Harnoncourt RCA ?
I do not have or have heard the Harnoncourt RCA version so sorry cannot make that comparison. What I can say is that with the Bosch the rears are used solely to pick up atmosphere (and there is plenty of it) whereas with Bychkov the additional trumpets in the Tuba Mirum "emerge" as Graham Williams says in his excellent review Verdi: Requiem - Bychkov via the rear speakers. As far as the soloists are concerned with Bosch on my system they come more centre whereas with Bychkov a little more spread across the front. The Bosch as you will appreciate was recorded live - I am pleased to report any applause before or at the end of the performance has been left out!
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Post by Gigi August 25, 2008 (6 of 8)
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I've heard Verdi Requiem many times in Milan (San Marco, the church of the first execution under R.Muti, La Scala under R.Muti and Auditorium under R.Chailly-A.Ceccato).
The only recording I can approach and suggest (sonically) to these live performances is TELARC with Atlanta Symphony Orchestra & Chorus. Jack Renner worked magic. The new recordings are surely inferior in all audiophile aspects. The conclusive evidence for any cd-sacd is to play them at very high and realistic level !!!!!! You can try and good luck !
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Post by diw August 25, 2008 (7 of 8)
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The Telarc Verdi is a great recording, no doubt. Are you saying neither of these will have the same impact?
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Post by Gigi August 25, 2008 (8 of 8)
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diw said:
The Telarc Verdi is a great recording, no doubt. Are you saying neither of these will have the same impact?
Bosch and Brychkov recordings are good but on my stereo at realistic level doesn't equal telarc recording in term of dynamics, musicality and general coherence of the sound.
The DECCA Requiem / Sutherland, Horne, Pavarotti, Talvela, Solti, Wiener Philharmoniker, 1967 sounds very good but unfortunately with udible ad irritating compression of dynamics. Great interpretation, stellar cast and for the age great recording but.........
Gigi
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