Post by Perigo August 24, 2008 (21 of 43)
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Peter said:
The statement from Hyperion clearly referred to SACD.
And this is enough for you?
I am curious to know the effective total sales of Hyperion titles around the world.
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Post by Peter August 24, 2008 (22 of 43)
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Arthur said:
Robert:
I have dozens of BIS SACDs, but I haven't purchased a BIS RBCD in over 5 years.
Bret, apologies for being OT, but if you like Villa-Lobos, don't reject the Choros volumes (or the Bachianas for that matter) just because they're not on SACD.
Peter
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Post by bissie August 24, 2008 (23 of 43)
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Johnno said:
I wrote to Mike Spring at Hyperion early in the proceedings about the company's dual inventory policy and was given the following reason for it. Firstly he said the company felt it was impossible to make SACDs and sell them for the same price as RBCDs. As a consequence, it was worried that it would lose sales if it adopted a single inventory policy because of the unavoidable (in its view) price increase.
Is that reasoning flawed? Clearly some companies believe so.
One should also not forget the court case that cost the company a considerable amount of money.
I agree it is very sad because it now means another independent label -- and a very fine one at that -- will not longer be participating in our favourite audio format. Thank goodness for the likes of BIS and Pentatone.
"Is that reasoning flawed?"
Yes, I would say so, and I do put my money where my mouth is.
Yes, in percentage the Hybrid SACD, with its special jewel case, and the increased cost of mastering etc etc, is indeed VERY much more expensive, but, in absolute money the difference is of a size that we have decided to swallow it.
I consider the PR value and this way to create a steady and happy customership far more valuable than the pennies extra spent.
But now I'm "stealing" a Hyperion thread. Perhaps this discussion should move to the BIS thread?
Best - Robert
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Post by toddao August 24, 2008 (24 of 43)
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bissie said:
That's actually an interesting statement. Since we at BIS only have single inventory, it would have been interested to know what the incremental sales is because of the SACD is, since we do offer the Hybrid SACD for the CD price. Unfortunately I know of no way to find it out.
Anyway, without intending to offend toddao, for me the contents amd musicality of the disc is the all-important thing - the sound it is presented in is but an added advantage, well, harrrumph, at least in our case.
Best - Robert
In Angela's case it was not only the performance that helped sell me on her cycle but also that she played a Fazioli and she obviously feels that its sound is important or otherwise she would be happy with a Steinway. The extra special something that this brings is evident on the SACD mc mix and is a joy to hear. I doubt whether I will feel the same if her next release is only RBCD.
In my case,it's the sound that often confirms a purchase. I recently bought the
Thomas Dausgaard Dvorak 6&9 after hearing him conduct the Sydney Symphony in an impressive Sibelius 2. While I was in two minds over the "reduced" orchestra in the Dvorak,knowing in would be in your superb MC sound was the decider. I have enjoyed it very much and look forward to more-also Dausgaard with the usual size symphony for more of this repertoire please.
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Post by aoqd22 August 25, 2008 (25 of 43)
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In the autumn of 2005 Andrew McGregor interviewed both Simon Perry and Ralph Couzens of Chandos during the BBC Radio 3 weekly 'CD Review' programme. At the time there was a lot of discussion about DVD Audio not SACD becoming the format for the future. Andrew asked both Simon and Ralph during their interviews which format they thought would survive. In each case they followed the EMI line and said DVD Audio not SACD. So I doubt either label has ever taken the SACD format that seriously.
One other point unless I am much mistaken Hyperion (and Chandos) have never had threads running on this website. I know it would take up someone's time to monitor the postings but heck it's a cost effective way of talking to your existing and potential market around the world!
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Post by bissie August 25, 2008 (26 of 43)
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aoqd22 said:
One other point unless I am much mistaken Hyperion (and Chandos) have never had threads running on this website. I know it would take up someone's time to monitor the postings but heck it's a cost effective way of talking to your existing and potential market around the world!
Hear, hear, and it is (mostly) extremely nice, too!
Robert
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Post by Johnno August 27, 2008 (27 of 43)
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bissie said:
"Is that reasoning flawed?"
Yes, I would say so, and I do put my money where my mouth is.
Yes, in percentage the Hybrid SACD, with its special jewel case, and the increased cost of mastering etc etc, is indeed VERY much more expensive, but, in absolute money the difference is of a size that we have decided to swallow it.
I consider the PR value and this way to create a steady and happy customership far more valuable than the pennies extra spent.
But now I'm "stealing" a Hyperion thread. Perhaps this discussion should move to the BIS thread?
Best - Robert
Thanks, Robert. If only there were more companies like yours. It's always a pleasure to read your comments.
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Johnno said:
Thanks, Robert. If only there were more companies like yours. It's always a pleasure to read your comments.
I agree totally with Johnno! If only there were more companies out there like yours. You deserve to be praised.
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Post by bissie August 27, 2008 (29 of 43)
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Kutyatest said:
I agree totally with Johnno! If only there were more companies out there like yours. You deserve to be praised.
Well, gee, thanks. This is the last that I read before going to bed on my 65th birthday - a really nice ending to a nice day.
Thanks - Robert
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Post by Johnno September 9, 2008 (30 of 43)
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65. eh? Many happy returns of the day, Robert.
By the way, you're not thinking of retiring are you? BIS needs you, we need you.
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