Thread: What IF???????

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Post by rammiepie August 21, 2008 (1 of 6)
As Zeus has rightfully stated, this forum seems to be shifting focus to downloads, SCH-CD and other non-related SACD topics......It seems that classical and jazz titles, while not exactly proliferating, are well served by the smaller labels, and yet Mobile Fidelity which is a small company and releases some choice, and at times ODD titles, could possibly shift its focus and release some choice Multi-channel Pop/Rock titles as it seems to deal with EMI, Warners and Sony/USA. Now "choice" can mean a lot of different things but as they release only limited editions of their titles, they could reasonably sell out quickly. I was chagrined that Santana's first two albums were only released as Gold CDs since the DTS release of Abraxas, while thin-sounding, opened up the soundfield immeasurably; it sounds wonderful on my Meridian 808 but is still 'lacking." A WISH list (some of which were recent SA-CD net posts) would be all over the map since we all have our favorites, but if anyone has ANY clout with MO-FI, maybe we could open their eyes to view their future releases with Multi-channel and more "mainstream" popular titles in mind. This way we don't have to be frustrated at the current Vinyl and SCH-CD blitzkrieg flooding the market. Any suggestions or comments?

Post by flyingdutchman August 21, 2008 (2 of 6)
Zeus has said that it is shifting focus, but that is a warning to keep discussions on track and on topic with SACD releases and support. I have no idea what you are suggesting.

Post by Jay-dub August 22, 2008 (3 of 6)
Are there a lot of Pop/Rock albums out there with existing surround mixes that Mobile Fidelity could reasonably remaster for SACD? I presume you're talking mainly about quadrophonic tapes from the '70's. There must be some good stuff out there, but I have no idea what.

Post by The Seventh Taylor August 22, 2008 (4 of 6)
Could they only do remastering of existing multichannel mixes or could they do/assist in the multichannel remixing of anything as long as multitrack master tapes are available? Ideally that would involve the original producer and/or recording engineer, if not the artists themselves, but it could also be someone else, provide (s)he has some expert authority. After all, that's the sort of thing that's happened to the Depeche Mode and Genesis remasters, hasn't it?

Post by rammiepie August 22, 2008 (5 of 6)
flyingdutchman said:

Zeus has said that it is shifting focus, but that is a warning to keep discussions on track and on topic with SACD releases and support. I have no idea what you are suggesting.

Poster "The Seventh Taylor" hit the nail on the head. Akin to the Pentatone SACDs of 70's existing Quad remixes, a great many albums were prepared for Quadriphonic release in the 70's, but at the time the technology was crude, and since analog tape, over time, flakes and stretches, these remixes were that much closer to the original source. My point, Mr. Flying Dutchman, is that since Mo-FI seems to have a rapport with EMI, Warners and Sony, would it not be too far fetched to license these already-prepared QUAD Remasters and turn them into Multi-channel SACDs. Preparing Multi-channel SACDs from non-existing QUAD remasters would be far too prohibitive... A few candidates of existing quad-remixes include: Bette Midler's first album for Atlantic (still, her best), "Gandharva" by Beaver & Kraus (featuring Bud Shank/Paul Desmond), Simon & Garfunkel, Tomita, Classic film scores (released by RCA in the 70's as CD-4 Quad records) and how about Moondance which was announced by Warners as a DVD audio and was NEVER released, to name a few. I am sure the list is extensive, and instead of having these Quad remasters languish in the vaults, why not release limited editions of each in SACD multi? And MO-FI would be the one to do it!

Post by wehecht August 22, 2008 (6 of 6)
rammiepie said:

Poster "The Seventh Taylor" hit the nail on the head. Akin to the Pentatone SACDs of 70's existing Quad remixes, a great many albums were prepared for Quadriphonic release in the 70's, but at the time the technology was crude, and since analog tape, over time, flakes and stretches, these remixes were that much closer to the original source. My point, Mr. Flying Dutchman, is that since Mo-FI seems to have a rapport with EMI, Warners and Sony, would it not be too far fetched to license these already-prepared QUAD Remasters and turn them into Multi-channel SACDs.... I am sure the list is extensive, and instead of having these Quad remasters languish in the vaults, why not release limited editions of each in SACD multi? And MO-FI would be the one to do it!

I have no idea about their pop catalog but several years ago I sent an email to EMI suggesting that if they weren't going to exploit their classical "quad" catalog, which contains many excellent recordings, then they should license them to Pentatone or Mo-FI (this was after it had become painfully obvious that their first batch of dvd-a releases was also the last batch). At least they answered the email, but it was pretty much what you'd expect: we'd personally love to put these recordings out but the demand wasn't there for the first group and we must wait for the marketplace to determine the future of multichannel recordings, we don't want to license them because we hope to issue them ourselves when the marketplace settles down etc.

Well obviously the market for multichannel classical recordings has settled down and chosen sacd, but EMI is still among the missing.

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