Post by jakeroux August 7, 2008 (1 of 43)
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A simple question: What types of music benefit most from the higher sampling rates and dynamic range capabilities (disregarding multichannel capabilities) of SACD media vs. standard red book CD, and what types benefit least, and why?
By way of examples of the “types” of music to which I am referring - full orchestra, vocal, single acoustic instrument, electronic, rock, jazz, pop, etc.
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jakeroux said:
A simple question: What types of music benefit most from the higher sampling rates and dynamic range capabilities (disregarding multichannel capabilities) of SACD media vs. standard red book CD, and what types benefit least?
By way of examples of the “types” of music to which I am referring - full orchestra, vocal, single acoustic instrument, electronic, rock, jazz, pop, etc.
Benefit most? Classical (in all it's forms) and jazz.
Benefit least? Rock and metal.
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Any acoustic music or performance can benefit fully from SACD due to the MCH ability to better recreate a 3D sound stage.
Those derived from purely electronic instruments and/or in a recording where the artists add their parts one by one (rather than an actual performance, such is the quality of many popular "artists") are likely to have less overall benefit due to the amount of processing these recordings endure.
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jakeroux said:
A simple question: What types of music benefit most from the higher sampling rates and dynamic range capabilities (disregarding multichannel capabilities) of SACD media vs. standard red book CD, and what types benefit least, and why?
By way of examples of the “types” of music to which I am referring - full orchestra, vocal, single acoustic instrument, electronic, rock, jazz, pop, etc.
A NO Brainer. Every type of music, most especially analog recordings, can benefit from DSD/SACD technology. Supposedly, DDD music doesn''t fare as well since it was originally PCM based but there have been some notable exceptions. What I would like to know, if an 8 bit DSD standard was to be introduced, would this technology be backward compatable with existing SACD players?
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rammiepie said:
A NO Brainer. Every type of music, most especially analog recordings, can benefit from DSD/SACD technology. Supposedly, DDD music doesn''t fare as well since it was originally PCM based but there have been some notable exceptions. What I would like to know, if an 8 bit DSD standard was to be introduced, would this technology be backward compatable with existing SACD players?
What would be the benefit of an 8 bit standard? DSD is a one bit stream. I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
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Post by Claude August 8, 2008 (6 of 43)
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In my (stereo only) experience, classical orchestral music benefits most from higher resolution (DSD or PCM). There is more air between instruments (or groups of instruments), the room dimensions can better be heard, massed strings sound smoother.
These advantages are less apparent with smaller acoustic ensembles (classical or jazz) which are recorded more close-up, or typical pop/rock music productions with multiple tracks undergoing many manipulations at the mixing/mastering stage. The sonic veil and harshness added by the lower CD resolution does less damage to these types of recordings than it does to orchestral music.
Besides hi-rez, there is of course the multichannel advantage, on which I cannot comment.
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Post by Peter August 8, 2008 (7 of 43)
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I'd really like a remix of Moog's reworking of the Brandeburgs. There's an opportunity for a straight stereo and a wacky surround version.
Peter
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Post by RWetmore August 8, 2008 (8 of 43)
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hookedondsd said:
What would be the benefit of an 8 bit standard? DSD is a one bit stream. I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
The benefit would be a much stabler system, a higher frequency response and less noise shaping. Also, an 8 bit system would be easier to edit with.
I would prefer a high sampling rate linear PCM system though - something like 441khz/24bit.
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Post by LivyII August 8, 2008 (9 of 43)
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flyingdutchman said:
Benefit most? Classical (in all it's forms) and jazz.
Benefit least? Rock and metal.
I don't know if I agree. Consider bands such as Rush or Led Zep, whose music relies on primarily layered sound, pinpoint drumming, strong bass lines; hearing Moving Pictures or Physical Graffiti on SACD in a well-thought MC mix could be pretty amazing. Even in two channel, the dynamic range benefits would be fantastic. Similarly, for live rock music, SACD and MC could be revelatory.
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LivyII said:
Similarly, for live rock music, SACD and MC could be revelatory.
Could you elaborate on that please? If the presentation was not multi-channel to begin with, what would it add in the typical rock concert venue? Would rock benefit from being played in Carnegie Hall?
Typically rock concerts I have been exposed to or heard detailed descriptions of were outdoor affairs or somewhere like Tanglewood or SPAC where you may as well be outdoors anyway.
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