Post by Perigo June 23, 2008 (1 of 9)
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A "new" hi-rez system by Reference Recordings: the HRx.
It is based on old pcm system, with 176,4/24bit resolution.
It uses dvd-r discs to record, then playing them on... computer server.
The best of the best for simplicity, indeed!
Would you know how many titles are available for it, at the moment?
Please, sit down!
THREE! :-) All Reference Recordings discs, of course!
I consider this umpteenth way to confuse customer brains like a very bad joke. I know since several years the media disc for hi-rez audio has a name: SACD.
Full stop.
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We all love SACD, but it failed [to combine the convenience and robustness of CD and the sound quality of vinyl and give this to the mass market].
Oh how I wish it was different, but no point looking back, let's look forward. Blu Ray or high-res downloads, or both, will do me.
Thanks.
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FunkyMonkey said:
We all love SACD, but it failed [to combine the convenience and robustness of CD and the sound quality of vinyl and give this to the mass market].
But I would say that it does provide the convenience and robustness of CD. In my opinion it far exceeds vinyl in sound quality....and let it be known that I have always believed that vinyl far exceeds CD in sound quality - therefore: (need I state the obvious ?)
The failing is of the media to promote SACD, and look at some of the posts on this forum - sound quality in many folks' minds takes a very back seat to what they perceive as musicianship - Edvin, PolyNomial, and I suspect Zeus himself are firmly in this camp.
If these people can't favor new performances above the performing standards set by the established RBCDs, what do you expect of the people from Gramophone etc? What you have from them, (the print media) is a total failure to relay the benefits of finer sound because finer sound, apparently even startlingly finer sound JUST DOESNT MATTER. (in those people's minds)
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Windsurfer said:
The failing is of the media to promote SACD, and look at some of the posts on this forum - sound quality in many folks' minds takes a very back seat to what they perceive as musicianship - Edvin, PolyNomial, and I suspect Zeus himself are firmly in this camp.
If these people can't favor new performances above the so-called standards set by RBCD performances, what do you expect of the people from Gramophone etc? What you have from them, (the print media) is a total failure to relay the benefits of finer sound because apparently finer sound JUST DOESNT MATTER.
In my case at least, perhaps better expressed that SACD allows the musicianship to honestly speak (at long last). The sound is just one aspect; the best sound will never compensate for a truly dreadful performance (I can just imagine the "plaudits" that would be garnished by the good folks here if I recorded a disc under a pseudonym...)
Conversely, poor sound does not completely rule a recording out-of-bounds (although there are some which get very close!) although it might make it a "specialist" recommendation rather than mainstream; I would never want to part with my set of Rachmaninov discs for example.
I gladly favour new performances over RBCD when the performance merits such a conclusion but I can't fully understand your logic; if a performance is mediocre, just because it sounds wonderful (from a technical perspective) surely doesn't mean it should displace musically "better" accounts (however one chooses to consider that)? The sound *is* important but as a means to convey performances not as an end in itself...
Regards
PN
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You guys do realize that Reference Recordings just released its first SACD, right?
It's "Tutti!: An Orchestral Sampler" and it is marketed only in the Hong Kong/China market. The SACD is being distributed by, ironically, Naxos. Go to audioasylum.com and read about it.
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Post by zeus June 23, 2008 (6 of 9)
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FunkyMonkey said:
We all love SACD, but it failed [to combine the convenience and robustness of CD and the sound quality of vinyl and give this to the mass market].
I'm sure those that invested heavily in the format would have liked to have seen wider uptake, but whether it appeals to the mass market or not makes little difference to me and my listening habits.
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Post by tailspn June 23, 2008 (7 of 9)
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Polly Nomial said:
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I gladly favour new performances over RBCD when the performance merits such a conclusion but I can't fully understand your logic; if a performance is mediocre, just because it sounds wonderful (from a technical perspective) surely doesn't mean it should displace musically "better" accounts (however one chooses to consider that)? The sound *is* important but as a means to convey performances not as an end in itself...
Regards
PN
Hi PN and all,
Can you accept that there are people who greatly appreciate music, especially classical, whose primary interest is the art and science and advancement of accurate sound reproduction?
The SACD we enjoy today is simply a consumer delivery medium. It has a strong following that believes that it is the most accurate delivery medium to date for allowing us, the consumer, a level of sound quality access to new and archived recorded performances previously only available at the master tape/hard drive level, in the studio and mastering suites.
In a perfect world, every performance issued on SACD would be universally acclaimed a perfect performance. But I'll buy it if it's ten sixth graders playing Mahler on kazoos if it represents a sonic transparency that brings me enjoyment. And I'm not alone.
Thanks
Tom
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Perigo said:
A "new" hi-rez system by Reference Recordings: the HRx.
It is based on old pcm system, with 176,4/24bit resolution.
That's like DXD at half resolution, and incidentally the format the PS3 converts every high-rez audio format (including DSD) to for output via HDMI.
> I consider this umpteenth way to confuse customer brains like a very bad joke.
It's probably time for a comprehensive overview because even I have lost track.
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Post by Claude June 24, 2008 (9 of 9)
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Perigo said:
I consider this umpteenth way to confuse customer brains like a very bad joke. I know since several years the media disc for hi-rez audio has a name: SACD.
Full stop.
I wonder how many thousands of consumers already bought such a HRx disc thinking it will play on their kitchen SACD system ;-)
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