Post by Aeryn Sun October 7, 2007 (51 of 100)
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Actually, there is an article in Guitar Player regarding the "Love" album, Giles (Martin) indicated that he transferred backups of the master tapes to DVD-audio because the previously done digital transfers were, in his words, "a really bad digital system that sounds terrible". "I wanted the best replication of the tapes possible". If left up to George, there will be no quality of any kind remastering of the recordings, even better 16/44 will not be made. Only when he is gone may there be a possibility of quality reissues of the Beatles recording. George Martin is a second rate producer who was in the comedy recordings division at EMI when he started with the Beatles, and he has been very jealous with those recordings he produced. Obviously, the recordings were pretty badly done, I don't think he had a clue what stereo was about!, and can't hold a candle to contemporary recordings from the Moody Blues, although the Beatle recordings are miles better than those by the Rolling Stones, just horrible stuff there...
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No clue what stereo was about? I guess we have to thank Giles Martin then for the fantastic multichannel mix of 'Love'. It seems we'll have to wait then until it's up to him. My hopes of a 40th-anniversary edition of Sgt Pepper were anyway already fading with this year almost gone.
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Post by jlaurson October 8, 2007 (53 of 100)
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This is unrelated to the actual discussion, it seems... but related to the subject thread. :-)
Some upcoming classical SACD releases are:
cpo:
Gian Francesco Malipiero, Piano Concertos 1-6. (2 CDs, Surround)
Pentatone:
W.A.Mozart, Sinfonia Concertante, Concertone f.2 Violins, Rondo for Violin & Orchestra -- thus finishing her Mozart/Violin/Orchestra cycle -- with Julia Fischer under Kreizberg. (DSD, multi-channel)
S.Prokofiev, Sy.#5 + Ode to the End of War, Russian National Orchestra, Jurowski
(DSD, multi-channel)
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Post by Myrtone October 8, 2007 (55 of 100)
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Aeryn Sun said:
Actually, there is an article in Guitar Player regarding the "Love" album, Giles (Martin) indicated that he transferred backups of the master tapes to DVD-audio because the previously done digital transfers were, in his words, "a really bad digital system that sounds terrible". "I wanted the best replication of the tapes possible". If left up to George, there will be no quality of any kind remastering of the recordings, even better 16/44 will not be made. Only when he is gone may there be a possibility of quality reissues of the Beatles recording. George Martin is a second rate producer who was in the comedy recordings division at EMI when he started with the Beatles, and he has been very jealous with those recordings he produced. Obviously, the recordings were pretty badly done, I don't think he had a clue what stereo was about!, and can't hold a candle to contemporary recordings from the Moody Blues, although the Beatle recordings are miles better than those by the Rolling Stones, just horrible stuff there...
Even worse, George Martin has had to quite his job due to a hearing loss (has hair cells in his ears and/or his ear drum must have worn out as a result of the Abbey Road sessions). Since much Beatles material has been remastered at 24 bit resolution (such as all tracks on the compliation simply known as 1), DVD-A release is more likely, all track on the "1" compilation were mastered to 16 bit for CD using prism SNS noise shaping. Most modern digital studio recordings are done at 24 bit resolution and are probably masetered to 16 bit using similar techniquies. In the later years of his career (the early CD era), he often did the mutitrack recordings in analogue and digitaly recored the final mix (this is called a digitally mixed analogue recording, I believe this is even so if the actual mixing or editing was done in the analogue domain).
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Is it generally accepted that there will be no new mainstream stuff released on SACD, i.e. stuff that may simultaneously be released on other formats and would sell miliions around the world (on all formats)?
Just asking so I can let go of the little hope I have left!
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Post by jlaurson October 9, 2007 (57 of 100)
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FunkyMonkey said:
Is it generally accepted that there will be no new mainstream stuff released on SACD, i.e. stuff that may simultaneously be released on other formats and would sell miliions around the world (on all formats)?
Just asking so I can let go of the little hope I have left!
Are we generally talking about non-classical music?
Oohh... "sell millions". Nevermind. [sheepish-sad look to tip of shoes.]
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Post by tommwi October 9, 2007 (58 of 100)
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FunkyMonkey said:
Is it generally accepted that there will be no new mainstream stuff released on SACD, i.e. stuff that may simultaneously be released on other formats and would sell miliions around the world (on all formats)?
Just asking so I can let go of the little hope I have left!
In this case I think history has something to offer. This site has a great help. Look at “Recent Additions” where all releases can be found, sorted in newest -> oldest, I believe. What’s mainstream or not can be judged by everyone.
I can se no mainstream stuff what so ever, save a very few titles. SACD is simply for niche markets like classical and jazz, and almost only so. A closer look also reveals that it is limited to what appears to be niche releases within these two niche markets, many with limited availability for many geographical markets. I think it is fair to say that SACD will at best stay so.
/Tommy
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tommwi said:
In this case I think history has something to offer. This site has a great help. Look at “Recent Additions” where all releases can be found, sorted in newest -> oldest, I believe. What’s mainstream or not can be judged by everyone.
I can se no mainstream stuff what so ever, save a very few titles. SACD is simply for niche markets like classical and jazz, and almost only so. A closer look also reveals that it is limited to what appears to be niche releases within these two niche markets, many with limited availability for many geographical markets. I think it is fair to say that SACD will at best stay so.
/Tommy
This is what I feared. But at least this seems to be the consensus so I can let go of my hope now.
RIP SACD (for non-classical-jazz-music-monkeys such as I).
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tommwi said:
In this case I think history has something to offer. This site has a great help. Look at “Recent Additions” where all releases can be found, sorted in newest -> oldest, I believe. What’s mainstream or not can be judged by everyone.
I can se no mainstream stuff what so ever, save a very few titles. SACD is simply for niche markets like classical and jazz, and almost only so. A closer look also reveals that it is limited to what appears to be niche releases within these two niche markets, many with limited availability for many geographical markets. I think it is fair to say that SACD will at best stay so.
/Tommy
Classical and jazz are hardly niche markets. Geez, what a moronic statement.
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