Thread: Cover-mounted SACD

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Post by The Seventh Taylor May 15, 2007 (1 of 12)
I wonder: has any music magazine ever distributed an SACD sampler disc on it's cover?

I guess it could be an interesting way to get more people acquinted with the format, especially among the 13 million people who own an SACD player but don't actively shop for discs yet.

Post by zeus May 15, 2007 (2 of 12)
The Seventh Taylor said:

I wonder: has any music magazine ever distributed an SACD sampler disc on it's cover?

I guess it could be an interesting way to get more people acquinted with the format, especially among the 13 million people who own an SACD player but don't actively shop for discs yet.

Didn't they include a sampler with Rolling Stone? Also, I seem to remember a magazine in Europe doing something similar.

Implicit in your comment is the thought that something ought to be DONE. SA-CD is an established format and most people that need to know about it already do. It's purely economics that determines whether releases happen or not ... even from labels that already have a passion for the format.

Post by threerandot May 15, 2007 (3 of 12)
I think the problem is mostly in North America. Stereo shops don't carry the format either because they are unaware, think it is dead or they don't think it will sell. Part of the reason why it won't sell is because people aren't aware of it. I am certain that there is a certain portion of the population that would embrace it if only stores carried it. Mind you, here in North America, that would be a small group.

As for a magazine with an SACD in it, I think its a great idea. Could be a way to enlighten those that are worth enlightening.

Post by Julien May 15, 2007 (4 of 12)
zeus said:

Implicit in your comment is the thought that something ought to be DONE. SA-CD is an established format and most people that need to know about it already do. It's purely economics that determines whether releases happen or not ... even from labels that already have a passion for the format.

I think people who believe that SACD should be a mass market and popular format are wrong. We do our best but it is still an "elite" market in a way and will stay that way for a long time. Rather stable though, and our job is to make it more stable, not more popular. There is a slight difference, because more popular could mean more medium quality releases for profit.
I think Zeus will not disagree.

Post by Julien May 15, 2007 (5 of 12)
zeus said:

Implicit in your comment is the thought that something ought to be DONE. SA-CD is an established format and most people that need to know about it already do. It's purely economics that determines whether releases happen or not ... even from labels that already have a passion for the format.

I think people who believe that SACD should be a mass market and popular format are wrong. We do our best but it is still an "elite" market in a way and will stay that way for a long time. Rather stable though, and our job is to make it more stable, not more popular. There is a slight difference, because more popular could mean more medium quality releases for profit.
I guess Zeus will not disagree.

Post by Verro18 May 16, 2007 (6 of 12)
Julien said:

I think people who believe that SACD should be a mass market and popular format are wrong. We do our best but it is still an "elite" market in a way and will stay that way for a long time. Rather stable though, and our job is to make it more stable, not more popular. There is a slight difference, because more popular could mean more medium quality releases for profit.
I guess Zeus will not disagree.

I don't want to be part of an "elite". I just want to be able to find the music that I love in the SACD format. Many people around me love the sound of SACDs but are reluctant to buy a plsyer beacause they can't find much in record stores.

Post by Sigfred May 16, 2007 (7 of 12)
Verro18 said:

I don't want to be part of an "elite". I just want to be able to find the music that I love in the SACD format. Many people around me love the sound of SACDs but are reluctant to buy a plsyer beacause they can't find much in record stores.

A decent universal player does not cost so much today, and the newer ones have better bass and time management as well.

Post by Windsurfer May 16, 2007 (8 of 12)
Julien said:

I think people who believe that SACD should be a mass market and popular format are wrong. We do our best but it is still an "elite" market in a way and will stay that way for a long time. Rather stable though, and our job is to make it more stable, not more popular. There is a slight difference, because more popular could mean more medium quality releases for profit.
I guess Zeus will not disagree.

Julien,

Looking at Verro18's post, I want to know more of what you mean by "elite". I am not sure what Verro18 means when he says he doesn't want to be part of an "elite". I just finished looking the word up on Wickopedia, and what I saw there is a little different from what I always assumed the word meant.

It crosses my mind that you may have unwittingly said something you really don't mean. I always thought just the pursuit of "high fidelity" marked an "elite". The love of classical music perhaps a little more so, but note from his postings that Verro18' main interest appears to be jazz (which also might be thought to be something of an elite) but again it appears that "elite" means something apart from what would define the group that say, pursues "high fidelity", or "classical music" or jazz.

so I am just curious as to how you are using the word

Thanks,
Bruce

Post by Innovation May 17, 2007 (9 of 12)
The Seventh Taylor said:

I wonder: has any music magazine ever distributed an SACD sampler disc on it's cover?

I guess it could be an interesting way to get more people acquinted with the format, especially among the 13 million people who own an SACD player but don't actively shop for discs yet.

There is a SACD on the cover of the latest edition of Stereoplay, a HiFi magazine from Germany.

Post by Julien May 17, 2007 (10 of 12)
Windsurfer said:

Julien,

It crosses my mind that you may have unwittingly said something you really don't mean... so I am just curious as to how you are using the word

Thanks,
Bruce

You're right. What I meant with that controversial word was that usually people who are after the ultimate quality are always a small percentage of the population. As simple as that.

If we analyse further, we might say that stereo SACD lovers are normally after the ultimate digital quality, and that multi-channel SACD lovers maybe are in two groups: one after the ultimate live experience and the best fidelity possible; and one which doesn't care that much about hi-fi, but enjoys the sensation of multi-channel music (which means that if there were as many multi-channel mp3s they would enjoy these too, but the good part is that normally once you get used to the goods SACD delivers you don't come back).

We already hear sometimes some really awful DSD recordings or remasterings, so what I believe is that if SACD became a popular format, then the guarantee of quality would be the recording team and record company only.

We still tend to believe that SACD, the format, means better in most cases.

I would say that it "should" be better for every single case for sure.

And I still want SACD to spread more and more, so that our players become better and better. The difference with redbook CD should be bigger.

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