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Discussion: Rachmaninov: Symphony No. 2 - Paavo Järvi

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Post by Windsurfer February 9, 2007 (1 of 33)
Just a little note regarding the recording type which erroneously is not identified as DSD on the site's listing.

According to the included booklet, this was recorded using the Sonoma Direct Stream Workstation in conjuction with EMM Labs ADC and DAC custom engineered by Ed Meitner.

I just listened to it last night and thought it was really wonderful.

Post by Collectus February 10, 2007 (2 of 33)
Windsurfer said:

Just a little note regarding the recording type which erroneously is not identified as DSD on the site's listing.

According to the included booklet, this was recorded using the Sonoma Direct Stream Workstation in conjuction with EMM Labs ADC and DAC custom engineered by Ed Meitner.

I just listened to it last night and thought it was really wonderful.

Got a big thumbs down in the latest Gramophone - has anyone else heard it?

Rob

Post by Windsurfer February 10, 2007 (3 of 33)
Collectus said:

Got a big thumbs down in the latest Gramophone - has anyone else heard it?

Rob

I bet anything it was not listened to as a multi-channel SACD!

Post by seth February 10, 2007 (4 of 33)
Windsurfer said:

I bet anything it was not listened to as a multi-channel SACD!

Presumably the review was not just about sound quality.

Post by Windsurfer February 10, 2007 (5 of 33)
seth said:

Presumably the review was not just about sound quality.

Obviously, but the sound is quite impressive, heard in MCH and turned up loud enough to simulate what you would have heard in the hall. Under those circumstances, when its like "you are there", the merit of a recording takes on a different light no matter how strongly one might differ with the particulars of the conductor's interpretation. That's my attitude, plus I am not so fussy as critic's who IMHO tend to be taken with their own cleverness in putting something down - and here I am not refering the Gramophone review in question which I have not read yet, but making a generalization. Helene Grimaud says this much better than I in her book "Wild Harmonies" which I enjoyed immensely, and recommend to all music lovers. (not to change the subject of course)

Post by Collectus February 10, 2007 (6 of 33)
seth said:

Presumably the review was not just about sound quality.

Yes, it was mainly about the performance and I don't believe it was listened to in Multi-Surround which tends to open everything up.

Rob

Post by Edvin February 10, 2007 (7 of 33)
Surround opens up the sound, but not the performance. Personally I would always choose a great performance with less good sound than the opposite.

Post by Edvin February 10, 2007 (8 of 33)
Windsurfer said:

That's my attitude, plus I am not so fussy as critic's who IMHO tend to be taken with their own cleverness in putting something down - and here I am not refering the Gramophone review in question which I have not read yet, but making a generalization.

Windsurfer, you have now been given a raspberry award for the most ignorant post yet. LOL.

Post by seth February 10, 2007 (9 of 33)
Edvin said:

Surround opens up the sound, but not the performance. Personally I would always choose a great performance with less good sound than the opposite.

That's what I was going to post.

Post by Windsurfer February 11, 2007 (10 of 33)
Edvin said:
Personally I would always choose a great performance with less good sound than the opposite.

I used to feel that way before I upgraded to mch. Now I must qualify this point - just last night I listened to a mch recording of some piano music. It (the sound) was horrible! As I listened, at first I wondered if it were the worst recording I ever heard, and then I turned it up and discovered that perhaps it was the best recording I ever heard of a terrible sounding piano. Maybe it was an ok piano being recorded in an inappropriate space - the sound was way too bright! I can only speculate as to the real cause....maybe recording, maybe instrument, maybe performer using too much pedal in the upper registers - maybe the composer wrote it that way(?).

With that said, I would rather go attend a live concert in a good hall (but not attend a live concert in a poor hall) than stay at home listening to stereo. But my MCH system, which directly evolved from my stereo system, incorporating the same L and R speakers and their amp, is so much better, that sound-wise it is only a small upward step to a real live performance in a good hall.

It is so close that the paradigm holds - I would rather listen to a superb recording - one that creates the illusion of my having been transported into the concert hall, than listen to the greatest performance in rbcd or LP sound, or a poor example of SACD sound (unfortunately there are a few).

Obviously the best of both worlds is the place to be and in many cases we are lucky that we actually do have great interpretation and playing and great sound.

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