Thread: Looking for 2ch sa-cd player

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Post by stahlhelm September 2, 2015 (1 of 28)
Hi all!

I would like to get a good 2ch sa-cd player. I am afraid of used machines because of the unknown laser hours in them. This is especially true with the good old Sony machines (SCD-1 and so on). They are great but no replacement laser for them any more... not an option unfortunately...
So I decided to get a brand new machine which will (hopefully) last long. Can you recommend me a good device in Europe up to 1000 EUR prince range? And besides do we know which machines convert DSD directly to analogue? Personally I don't believe that the cheaper ones do that...
Multichannel gear and hooking up via HDMI is not in my interest at the moment.
Thank you and regards

Post by mekduk September 2, 2015 (2 of 28)
Would you need balanced output? I could recommend a discontinued NAD M5 for less than 1000 Eur. If primary purpose is for SACD, this player shines. If you are thinking about CD, then it may fall short of the competition. Another you could consider a safe bet like Marantz (get the older models like SA11S2 for price reasons, this player is built like a tank).

Post by stahlhelm September 2, 2015 (3 of 28)
Thank you for your fast reply. Balanced (XLR) output is not a requirement, I am ok with unbalanced.

Post by pacwin September 2, 2015 (4 of 28)
stahlhelm said:

Hi all!

I would like to get a good 2ch sa-cd player. I am afraid of used machines because of the unknown laser hours in them. This is especially true with the good old Sony machines (SCD-1 and so on). They are great but no replacement laser for them any more... not an option unfortunately...
So I decided to get a brand new machine which will (hopefully) last long. Can you recommend me a good device in Europe up to 1000 EUR prince range? And besides do we know which machines convert DSD directly to analogue? Personally I don't believe that the cheaper ones do that...
Multichannel gear and hooking up via HDMI is not in my interest at the moment.
Thank you and regards

Yes avoid used machines
Keep an eye out for versatile machines like the new Denon DCD-SX11

http://www.phileweb.com/news/audio/201509/01/16285.html

SACD and DSD256/PCM 384/32 USB DAC

Post by Polarius T September 2, 2015 (5 of 28)
The new(ish) Yamaha players have been reaping a lot of praise, but they're above your price range.

Where I live the CD-S2100 is about 2,000 euros, and the top-of-the-line CD-S3000 about twice that.

http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/hifi-components/cd-players/cd-s2100_g/?mode=model

http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/hifi-components/cd-players/cd-s3000_g/?mode=model

They do look good, though, and not just on the outside.

Post by stahlhelm September 2, 2015 (6 of 28)
Polarius T said:

The new(ish) Yamaha players have been reaping a lot of praise, but they're above your price range.

Where I live the CD-S2100 is about 2,000 euros, and the top-of-the-line CD-S3000 about twice that.

http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/hifi-components/cd-players/cd-s2100_g/?mode=model

http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/hifi-components/cd-players/cd-s3000_g/?mode=model

They do look good, though, and not just on the outside.

These are unfortunately out of my budget. Anyway, are they still on the market? They were introduced in 2007 if I am correct.
The only machine what I can afford from this Yamaha range is the model S1000. Any thoughts on that? Cheers

Post by bmoura September 2, 2015 (7 of 28)
Don't forget the Oppo Digital BDP-103 and BDP-105 players. They play 2 channel and Multichannel SACDs, DVD Audio discs and even DSD and PCM downloads!
http://www.oppodigital.co.uk/ecommerce/product/BDP-103D.aspx

Post by hiredfox September 2, 2015 (8 of 28)
stahlhelm said:

Hi all!

I would like to get a good 2ch sa-cd player. I am afraid of used machines because of the unknown laser hours in them. This is especially true with the good old Sony machines (SCD-1 and so on). They are great but no replacement laser for them any more... not an option unfortunately...
So I decided to get a brand new machine which will (hopefully) last long. Can you recommend me a good device in Europe up to 1000 EUR prince range? And besides do we know which machines convert DSD directly to analogue? Personally I don't believe that the cheaper ones do that...
Multichannel gear and hooking up via HDMI is not in my interest at the moment.
Thank you and regards

Marantz SA 8005 is the short and very reliable answer to your question, a superb machine that punches far, far above it's weight and importantly delivers the musical message. Everything stays as DSD throughout - no nasty PCM conversions along the way!

Post by hiredfox September 2, 2015 (9 of 28)
By the way I have bought many old Sony machines in the past new and old and never but never had any trouble with any of them. I would not hesitate to do so again.

Post by Iain September 2, 2015 (10 of 28)
stahlhelm said:

Hi all!

I would like to get a good 2ch sa-cd player. I am afraid of used machines because of the unknown laser hours in them. This is especially true with the good old Sony machines (SCD-1 and so on). They are great but no replacement laser for them any more... not an option unfortunately...
So I decided to get a brand new machine which will (hopefully) last long. Can you recommend me a good device in Europe up to 1000 EUR prince range? And besides do we know which machines convert DSD directly to analogue? Personally I don't believe that the cheaper ones do that...
Multichannel gear and hooking up via HDMI is not in my interest at the moment.
Thank you and regards

Frankly in today's continuously changing environment, I would be quite hesitant to invest anything over £300 on a machine that will be obsolete in a few months. You would do well with either of these, as they both offer physical SA-CD support and the former also offers 2-channel and multi-channel DSD file (.dff/.dsf) support via USB:
http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/blu-ray-disc-players/bdp-s7200

http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/blu-ray-disc-players/bdp-s6500

The latter machine will also be a great value whilst you modernise the rest of your system.

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