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Post by Chris March 7, 2013 (81 of 139)
DSD said:



almost instant = takes a long time to download.

That of course depends a lot on your internet connection.
While out travelling as now, there can be painfully slow wi fi downloading yes. But from my in town connection at home it is lightning fast. 98mbps. I can download a full DSD album in a matter of minutes there.
Pure DSD via a capable DAC is imho addictive.
As far as I am concerned:"El futuro esta aqui!

Post by Oakland March 7, 2013 (82 of 139)
tailspn said:

and I like to watch the meters.

And a real plus of downloads is being to almost instantly locate the loudest passages (to optimize volume setting) on the time line.

Also, the prospect of having access to DSD "raw files" is most unique and could be worth the price of admission. Although, two-channel downloads, no matter what the resolution, is unimportant to me.

Post by canonical March 7, 2013 (83 of 139)
Instant gratification is soooo last decade - so 2000. Downloads are proving very popular in India, but you know ... once you've tried the McDonalds experience ... it's time to move on.

Years ago, my brother ripped my entire CD collection (and his) ... and gave me a copy of the complete lot. It sits on my hard drive ... mostly unused ... doesn't do much for me ... the metadata is irritatingly messy and takes more effort to compile correctly than to organise a physical collection, ... But mostly ... the process of choosing and playing just leaves me cold. I also find it a non-serious approach to music that encourages short attention spans and an attention deficit disorder attitude to music ... 3 minutes of this and 2 minutes of that. It works well for singles and junk you collect off the internets, and I use it for that.

As for fun, who is going to say WOOT when a download file arrives on their hard drive ... compared to the excitement of opening a parcel in the post, unwrapping it, taking off the shiny plastic sleeve, and admiring the yummy tactile booklet.

Post by Chris March 7, 2013 (84 of 139)
canonical said:

Instant gratification is soooo last decade - so 2000. Downloads are proving very popular in India, but you know ... once you've tried the McDonalds experience ... it's time to move on.

Years ago, my brother ripped my entire CD collection (and his) ... and gave me a copy of the complete lot. It sits on my hard drive ... mostly unused ... doesn't do much for me ... the metadata is irritatingly messy and takes more effort to compile correctly than to organise a physical collection, ... But mostly ... the process of choosing and playing just leaves me cold. I also find it a non-serious approach to music that encourages short attention spans and an attention deficit disorder attitude to music ... 3 minutes of this and 2 minutes of that. It works well for singles and junk you collect off the internets, and I use it for that.

As for fun, who is going to say WOOT when a download file arrives on their hard drive ... compared to the excitement of opening a parcel in the post, unwrapping it, taking off the shiny plastic sleeve, and admiring the yummy tactile booklet.

Whatever makes you happy. My own personal priority has always been and remains the actual music at the highest possible quality,both performance and SQ wise.
And if you really want to indulge in great artwork both good old LP and now booklet and covershot on a hi res computer screen leaves puny little cd size images and text far behind in the dust of yesterday imo.

Post by rosenkavalier817 March 7, 2013 (85 of 139)
canonical said:

3 minutes of this and 2 minutes of that. It works well for singles and junk you collect off the internets, and I use it for that.

You know you can turn off the shuffle feature, right? In fact, it would be pretty easy to queue up the entire Ring of the Nibelungen and immerse yourself in eighteen hours of glorious music uninterrupted. You wouldn't have to get off the sofa to change the disc.

Post by bissie March 8, 2013 (86 of 139)
zeus said:

Never mind the fact that many won't be around in 5 years time.

Now THAT's really negative!!

At least we are there for the long haul - like all BIS products, since we are a totally non-deleting company.

And, yes, if your hard drive crashes, you can re-download without any charge whatsoever - with us.

Robert

Post by lennyw March 8, 2013 (87 of 139)
rosenkavalier817 said:

pretty easy to queue up the entire Ring of the Nibelungen

Indeed. Those disc changes are always a real pain. Karajan was wrong to have chosen Beethoven's 9th. He should have chosen Rheingold...

Post by operamuso March 8, 2013 (88 of 139)
canonical said:

I. But mostly ... the process of choosing and playing just leaves me cold. I also find it a non-serious approach to music that encourages short attention spans and an attention deficit disorder attitude to music ... 3 minutes of this and 2 minutes of that.

Hear hear hear - the process of choosing a physical disc, loading it, sitting down and LISTENING to it is far more conducive to a worthwhile experience than the random sampling of 1000's of tracks on a computer drive - which is what downloading tends to lead to.....

Post by hiredfox March 8, 2013 (89 of 139)
operamuso said:

Hear hear hear - the process of choosing a physical disc, loading it, sitting down and LISTENING to it is far more conducive to a worthwhile experience than the random sampling of 1000's of tracks on a computer drive - which is what downloading tends to lead to.....

I guess we are dealing with a generation for whom 'interactive' means pressing a button.

Post by Polarius T March 8, 2013 (90 of 139)
lennyw said:
Karajan was wrong to have chosen Beethoven's 9th.

I thought that was the Sony CEO who did that (using Furtwängler's Bayreuth 9th as the yardstick)?

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